The race for fourth place

Thanks for your patronizing, if brutally obvious, analysis.

The difference being that neither Toon nor Liverpool's fortunes are tied to one person's purse strings. If your Russian owner were to die in a fire, so would your title hopes.

 

i hope NUFC claim 4th....still, as long as it's not the red *#*#*#*#*#e eh?

TOON ARMY!

 

Keep dreaming. He's not going away and neither are we.

 

I think that Liverpool and Newcastle need to spend muuch more than they do if they are ever going to be competitive with the likes of Man U, Arsenal and Chelsea. It does not make sense that they are competing for fourth place to get in the Champions League and they are not able to beat any of the top clubs in Europe, particularly at home. These clubs are doing every thing on the cheap, with their purchasing of these second rate stars, that's why they are getting second rate results.

 

Highly probable.

However, if he doesn't die in a fire - highly improbable - then what

 

Actually Liverpool have spent vast amounts of money in the past 5 years - almost £100 Million i believe - and would be in the top three spenders if Abramovichs spree wasn't counted.

Their problem isn't that they haven't spent - it's that the players they bought haven't performed in any way shape or form.

As for the toon, they have spent as well.
£5 million for a young teenager is a bold move.
Their biggest problem though is the strength of the teams above them - and slow starts.

 

Newcastle in 4th place this season and next, but I think next season they and Liverpool will still be miles behind Man U, Arsenal and Chelsea.

 

I can't believe this rubbish is coming from an Arsenal fan. It's not all about spending money, it's about building a team. Look at Arsene Wenger you moron. He doesn't spend £20m a year, but we've got a top team. And I thought Ranieri did a top job getting Chelsea into fourth last season with bugger all cash.

 

i partially agree...liverpool have bought second rate stars

but they most certainly haven't done it on the cheap.

Heskey for £11m?
Diouf for £10m?
Diao for £4.7m?
to name but a few...

here's to them wasting another £13m on Cisse!

 

Your lot were on the brink of administration before Roman stepped in. When the KGB nick him Chelsea will do a West Ham.

 

That is quite true mate, and if you have read any posts of mine on the Chels board for the past few years i was always one of his biggest opponents with the way he ran the whole CV thing as opposed to good financial management.

There is no question whatsoever that we lucked out, although a Leeds style melt down would not have happened as we had other real assets than players to realise to stave of the money men.

Also the ground and pitch were held by other PLC's and would have ran in their own right - what would have happened though is that the whole white elephant that was Chelsea Village would have been sold of piece meal, Gallas would be playing in Spain and Terry would be wearing the red of your neighbours - in 2007 though when the final Eurobond payment was due the ground would have been sold as it was used to finance the buliding of the west stand.
No, there wasn't a bright future there to be honest and if Sheff Weds do get him they better have quite a few accountants looking at what he actually does.

Besides, he may be in more trouble than is being let on what with his ties to Tollman and the FBI on his case.He's lieing through his teeth and it's only a matter of time before one of the people "cuts a deal".
The only thing Bates has going for him is that the American authorities are after the weasels in the bank defrauding scheme in the States and he's just getting caught up in the fall out.

But, as i said above, it's a great time to be a Chelsea fan, especially for the ones that suffered through the dross of the late 70s to mid 90's era.

Who knows what will happen in the future.

 

True, true, can't see Chelsea doing a Blackburn either. Putting Kenyon as chief executive was a great move, that's a sign that even if the club is a plaything and a refuge, at least it's going to be a relatively well run one.

Bates is a muppet, it's his fault Wembley is ridiculously overpriced. I was so glad to see his programme notes taken away for him and for him to be shunted off into the background. He doesn't deserve to ride off into the sunset.

 

I still think Liverpool will get 4th place. Newcastle aren't consistent enough.

 

I would like somebody apart from Newcastle or Liverpool to come 4th. I would like to see Fulham, but I doubt it.

 

Real quick, and check me if I'm wrong, but of those 5 clubs, Arsenal and Newcastle have spent the least, and Arsenal will continue to "go cheap" until Ashburton Grove gets done (if it ever does).

Spending money is great, but as someone else pointed out, you have to spend it wisely.

 

You are an ass h#le. Arsenal have already built a team that has won championships. All they need to do is tinker and maintain the high standard that they have attained. Has Liverpool won the Epl in recent time ? Has Newcastle? NO DUMB ASS! Not because Arsenal did not spend large sums of $$$ the last two seasons means LP and toons can do that. They must spend more to bridge the gap between the big 3. Even if Lp or Toon come fourth, they will be destroyed by the elite teams in the champions league, you bit*h.

 

OK young fellla clam down. You can call me all the names you want, I don't care. It's as simple as this. You can make a good team on no money. Ranieiri did this last year. You can make a championship challenging team on relatively little money. Wenger has done this all the years he's been at Arsenal. If you can't see it you are blind.

You don't know ******** all about football you arse.

 

The asterisks blocked out what I actually typed you arse.