"cole has so much potential" that's what people tell me. JC wants to be zidane, but lacks the confidence & natural Pazazz to pull it off. honestly, i'm not one of the people who always beats up on joey, but recent talk about maurinho playing him on the right wing or as part of a central midfield pairing has got me a bit flustered, i mean he can't CROSS/PASS/ TACKLE or SCORE nor is he the fastest player on the team. JM is known for developing young talent so i think there is hope but if he (j cole) is in the team of the season next may it will be a victory more for the coach than for the player. p.s. the whole "we don't need Deco becuse we have J.Cole" was no big deal to me as i think deco would have been eaten alive by the EPL
Unless Joe Cole gets a lot of people stuck, I think you meant "enigma" here Oh, and he's a good passer, and not a bad crosser. He's also quite strong on the ball. Joe's got some nice qualities, and if he could just harness them a bit better, he'd be great.
when i say Quagmire i mean Cole has so much potential we don't want to sell him, but what he brings on the pitch is often so disappointing. give me some credit nicey
I'll give you all the credit you want (you are a Chelsea fan, after all), but that would make him an enigma, not a quagmire. A quagmire is something you're stuck IN. We're not stuck in Joe Cole. At least I hope not.
(look what you've reduced me to) quag·mire n. 1. Land with a soft muddy surface. 2. A difficult or precarious situation; a predicament. the 2nd one. if we sell him he might finaly show his best form, if we play him we may harm our chances cuz' of his inconsistant form. and i don't see him as an enigma at all. 'wants to be zidane, but is not quite good enuff. and yes i know quoting a dictionary is the lowest form of discourse.
cole can go out on loan if jm decides he isnt ready to be a regular. we dont need to sell, thats the great part of having $.
From what I have seen of Joe Cole he seemed very pedestrian to me...a lot of flash no finish. Again this is what I saw (I did not watch every single Chelsea game last season): -Crosses and passes often late and generally poor -Not yet seeing field clearly, misses run opportunities regularly -regularly tries some fancy moves, loses ball, and looks like a retard in the process -pushes ball forward too hard at times...gets himself mobbed by defenders, loses ball and looks like a ball hoarding prick. All that said...there's some really good skills buried under there. Joe Cole just needs to realize he's not as good as players who flash the bling he's trying to pull and just play within his capabilities (along the lines of Fletcher for ManU). And even guys like non-fat Ronaldo or Joaquin don't try some of the silly stuff Joe tries to pull. Joe will calm down and his performances on the pitch will improve, possibly quite dramatically, with mr. JM coaching him along.
Nah, its all good. I stick by my opinion though. Joe Cole might put is IN a quagmire. But he's not A quagmire. Sigh. I read legal documents for a living. I try not to do that in my life where I pretend I'm a viking. Or a knowledgeable football fan. Whichever I'm closer to at the moment. Well, I'm off to sleep. Where I'm definitely a viking
Re: Joe Cole, Enigmatically playing in the mud Little Joe Cole ~ on the right, down the middle, alongside a striker ~ T’is all good. He has this season to prove himself. I think he should have got more playing time last season rather than Gronks to be honest. He has the skill and he has the commitment, lets see what he can do. JM likes him and a lot of top managers who work with him really like him – some players take longer to mature and develop, little Zola was a late bloomer.
does anyone recall seeing JC on the right of midfield last season? i can only remember him on the left, in the center & as a second striker at the very end of the season.
Cole's biggest problem is his decision making which can be poor sometimes but towards the end of last year he HAD started to become a better team player, making important passes which lead directly to goals and getting into goal-scoring positions himself. It's true to say he only scored the one last year in 32 games, (although the bulk of them was off the bench), but it's also true to say he hit the woodwork a few times and had a few cleared off the line and such like. In any event he wasn't played as a second striker or, because of the way Ranieri had the team playing, wasn't likely to get many goals being positioned wide left most of the time. I think the most important thing about Cole, though, is what happened with another ex. West Ham player, Frank Lampard and that is that he had to lose that idea that West Ham players often seem to have that it's OK to lose sometimes as long as you make pretty patterns on the pitch and 'look good'. I've said that before and I know some on here, (Clan et al), think I'm having a go at West Ham but, actually, I quite like them... (where's an icon for 'The Scream' when you need one...). One of my best mates from years ago was a West Ham supporter and I've always liked the old 'academy of football' thing, to be honest. However, I also recognise that you don't win things at academies. Hopefully, in another year or two, Joe, having had the continuing 'kick up the ar!se' that Ranieri started, will be more concentrated on his overall play and contribution to the team. The thing is he DID make a contribution at the end of last year to our achieving second spot. He just needs to continue that improvement. I think he should be playing in, say, 25-30 games this year... maybe more if he's brought on or taken off.