The Prince That Was Promised - Bienvenue Kylian Mbappé

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  1. Seoul Villan

    Seoul Villan Member+

    Feb 16, 2011
    Carlo was never about tactics. He’s always been roll the ball out and let the boys cook mentality.

    I mean, just look at our improbable CL run in 2021/22 and last year. It wasn’t tactics that won us those titles.
     
  2. Hendrix22

    Hendrix22 Member+

    Feb 28, 2010
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    So we should replace Carlo with someone who basically just rotates more and puts Mendy on the bench or some other patchwork quick fix, but otherwise also rolls the ball out and lets the boys cook? If that is the idea, Carlo is still the best choice for that out there. But its still crazy to believe this type of winning is sustainable.
     
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  3. Ahmadi8

    Ahmadi8 Member+

    Apr 14, 2005
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    Maybe if Mbappe did his job the complaints you have about the rest of the squad can be amplified and the blame would go elsewhere.

    Trying to give him a pass because well the rest suck too. That's the lazy narrative I'm seeing.
     
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  4. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    I don't see where I'm giving him a pass. He's clearly part of a losing team. Neither him or anybody else is hitting the high notes that are expected from "best player in the world" caliber players.

    Other than Courtois I couldn't really say that we have the hands down best player in any position on the field right now in Spain. You can argue for Vinicius but Raphinja has a slight edge right now.
     
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  5. Ahmadi8

    Ahmadi8 Member+

    Apr 14, 2005
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    Let's fire Perez, should sort everything out.

    Ancelloti will make the right subs and the right starting eleven. Mbappe will grow a pair and the defense will stop everything.
     
  6. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Offense will be Mbappe, Vini, Jude and maybe Rodrygo for next year or two at least. Either Carlo figures it out or it will be upto Xabi next season. Club is not gonna move on from players like Mbappe without giving him 2-3 years.
     
  7. robertocarlos3

    robertocarlos3 Member+

    Jan 9, 2012
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    Perez will rather lose an arm before selling mbappe in the summer (or admiring a mistake). Mbappe is going nowhere - as long as Perez is around.
    The club, the team, the next head coach and the players will have to get used to that.
    It's not like we didn't have already a precdent for this with Eden (and you can say Kaka and even Beckham before that).
     
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  8. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Beckham always gave his all. Not his fault that teams with Graverson/Pablo Garcia as DMs and shitty coaches couldn't win anything.

    Once we got Capello, he made it work just about with Momo Diarra who was a terrible passer, couldn't really tackle and past it Emerson.
     
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  9. Savior

    Savior Member

    Apr 4, 2008
    #2334 Savior, Nov 29, 2024 at 5:39 PM
    Last edited: Nov 29, 2024 at 5:45 PM
    Don’t kill me and for the sake of discussion but… how about Carlo playing Mbappe in a midfield role as a CAM or maybe even deeper. I don’t think he has tried that. Mbappe has(had?) all the attributes necessary: athletic, quick touches, good touches, good vision, and importantly, likes to have the ball. You also have to consider that his best attributes have been his ability to break defensive lines and run at defenders and he is not doing that very well right now. Yes, he would have to give up better scoring positions and his dream of being like CR7 due to positional differences - I know, unlikely. He would be able to play in more space that the rest of the squad would open up and maybe it could help him get back in his groove. Likely unlikely but what a fun thought.
     
  10. benny_madridista

    Real Madrid
    Nov 30, 2020
    No he doesn't.
     
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  11. robertocarlos3

    robertocarlos3 Member+

    Jan 9, 2012
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    Maybe as a goalkeeper. In that position he doesn't need to run much....
     
  12. Savior

    Savior Member

    Apr 4, 2008
    :ROFLMAO:
     
  13. boeder

    boeder Member+

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    Brazil
    Feb 27, 2013
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    Brazil
    Raul Asencio has more personality and confidence than this alleged rapist.
     
  14. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    OK I wouldn't diss Mbappe based on some media speculation while using Asencio who's actually involved in a court case regarding a serious crime.

    Athletic had a report that Asencio was called up by Carlo last season, but he has to be relieved as a court hearing came up on same day.

    Asencio was initially called up as a witness while there other Castilla players were arrested, but later, police started investigating his involvement too.

    One of those players moved to Girona last summer while the other two moved to lower division clubs.
     
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  15. Nathanial Essex

    Nathanial Essex Member+

    Real Madrid
    England
    Mar 19, 2017
    The team is not in the best of form and fitness, and Mbappé is undoubtedly worse.

    Vinicius is a game changer, Bellingham at least works hard
    It's not his position! Please people, get this in your head. He's off form, lacking confidence etc.
     
  16. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Real Madrid
    Colombia
    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
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    Alright Kylian

    let’s try this again.

    snap out of it
     
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  17. Doni

    Doni Member+

    Dec 4, 2010
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    Wtf? What is the case about, is Asencio still being investigated do you know?
     
  18. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    I hope he's not guilty because the case is pretty damn horrifying.

    https://www.elmundo.es/madrid/2023/09/25/65107732e85eced2108b456e.html

    Case is still open by the way, and a lot of people wondered why he was allowed to leave the country considering the severity of the charges.
     
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  19. boeder

    boeder Member+

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    Feb 27, 2013
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    Upon his testimony he went from being a witness to becoming a suspect.
     
  20. Savior

    Savior Member

    Apr 4, 2008
    Relax buddy, I know it’s not his position. Players do change positions and player skill sets change as their career progresses. I know I won’t ever see this change but I think Mbappe could play this role and play it well. I could give 101 reasons why he could, at that. He would certainly play it better than Rodrygo Goes and that hasn’t stopped Carlo or Dorvil from trying him there.
     
  21. PeXXeR

    PeXXeR Member

    Real Madrid
    Sep 24, 2023
    Mbappe does not have the IQ and the vision and the timing or the class in general to be a AM.
    His dribbling in tight spaces is wank, his touch is not the best, he can't stay on side right now I cant imagine him playing AM.

    The list keeps going on and on, his horrible work rate etc.

    He needs to adjust to CF if he wants to succeed at Madrid.
     
  22. REALFOREVER

    REALFOREVER Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    He was always going to end up a CF, but it looks like he has to fail at the other positions before he accepts it.
     
  23. temesgen

    temesgen Member+

    Jun 27, 2004
    We haven't had an attacker as uninvolved in defending and pressing since Ronaldo, but Ronaldo's exceptional goal-scoring ability often masked those shortcomings. Additionally, he had teammates who stepped up to balance the team. In contrast, the current squad has three or four players who see themselves as the best in the world. While most put in a solid effort, we remain unbalanced, with Mbappe frequently shooting straight into defenders and failing to find dangerous positions the way Ronaldo did.
     
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  24. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Yeah, Rodrygo seeing himself in the picture for the best player in the world was eye opening. I imagine there's a ridiculous amount of self confidence in the locker room that crosses into arrogance occasionally.
     
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  25. temesgen

    temesgen Member+

    Jun 27, 2004
    I don’t think people realize the egos CA is juggling here. It’s not hard to imagine the "Carlo out" crowd singing a different tune six months later when the team devolves into three or four warring factions. Training sessions, social media beefs, and on-pitch call-outs would make the East Coast vs. West Coast rap feud look like a friendly neighborhood block party.
     

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