The Prince That Was Promised - Bienvenue Kylian Mbappé

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  1. lecannois

    lecannois Member+

    Real Madrid
    France
    Jul 6, 2023
    Look it up. You have google. I"m not here to educate you.
     
  2. lecannois

    lecannois Member+

    Real Madrid
    France
    Jul 6, 2023
    Hope your source isn't just Expressen and a proper media source.
     
  3. Nathanial Essex

    Nathanial Essex Member+

    Real Madrid
    England
    Mar 19, 2017
    No link because it's bull shit.
     
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  4. lecannois

    lecannois Member+

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    France
    Jul 6, 2023
    #1554 lecannois, Oct 14, 2024
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    FIFA rules clearly state that players cannot refuse an international call up. To be precise, a player is "obliged to respond affirmatively when called up by the association he is eligible to represent," as outlined by the Regulations on the Status and Transfer of Players document (p 32-34 for club requirements, p 40-41 for play requirements). Link: https://www.icsspe.org/system/files/FIFA - Regulations on the Status and Transfer of Players.pdf

    Note that this only applies to fixtures included in the coordinated international match calendar.

    The issue of national duty is twofold, as both players and clubs are obliged to respond to a call up and release the player in question, respectively. As a rule, a player is not entitled to play for his club when he is – or should have been – released for an international fixture, and refusing a call up leads to this restriction being prolonged by five more days. Furthermore, a club's refusal to release a player will result in disciplinary measures including the forfeiture of games.

    You people have a hard time doing research it seems.
     
  5. lecannois

    lecannois Member+

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    France
    Jul 6, 2023
    Heck, here's the text in the section on pages 40-41:

    1. As a general rule, every player registered with a club is obliged to respond affirmatively when called up by the association he is eligible to represent on the basis of his nationality to play for one of its representative teams.

    2. Associations wishing to call up a player must notify the player in writing at least 15 days before the first day of the international window (cf. Annexe 1, article 1 paragraph 4) in which the representative teams’ activities for which he is required will take place. Associations wishing to call up a player for the final competition of an international tournament must notify the player in writing at least 15 days before the beginning of the relevant release period. The player’s club shall also be informed in writing at the same time. Equally, associations are advised to copy the association of the clubs concerned into the summons. The club must confirm the release of the player within the following six days. Annexe 1 41

    3. Associations that request FIFA’s help to obtain the release of a player playing abroad may only do so under the following two conditions: a) The association at which the player is registered has been asked to intervene without success. b) The case is submitted to FIFA at least five days before the day of the match for which the player is needed.
     
  6. MiamiNative0722

    MiamiNative0722 Member+

    May 25, 2013
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    Real Madrid
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    Whenever he has missed a game, whether it’s for Madrid psg or France, he has almost always posted himself watching the game.

    The only thing that’s desperate is people trying to snipe him for literally anything at all.
     
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  7. Galatico

    Galatico Member+

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    United States
    Aug 15, 2019
    Molina going off about this rape thing (He says we're in a crisis lol). Whatever happened to that book he was gonna release?
     
  8. .halamadrid2.

    .halamadrid2. Member+

    Nov 5, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Ermm Expressen IS a proper media source.

    Though it does say that the level of suspicion is on the lower end of the scale ( i.e. he said she said), so I would hazard a guess that this won't go anywhere. If there is even a shred of evidence Mbappe would've been arrested long ago. Sweden is a country that is very hard on such crimes.
     
  9. lecannois

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    France
    Jul 6, 2023
    https://www.eurotopics.net/en/148537/expressen

    “Expressen tabloid belongs to the Swedish media group Bonnier. It focusses on scandals and sensational reporting. It was founded in 1944 as a liberal voice by publisher Albert Bonnier, among others. Crime author Liza Marklund used to work as a journalist for Expressen. It is Aftonbladet's main rival and its editing offices are in the same building as Dagens Nyheter's.”

    essentially, junk.
     
  10. WhiteRM

    WhiteRM Member

    Real Madrid
    Jan 17, 2024
    in other word, there is no such thing and you just making things up.
     
  11. .halamadrid2.

    .halamadrid2. Member+

    Nov 5, 2010
    Club:
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    No, wrong. Like every other news outlet. Nothing like the Sun but not like The Guardian either. Sweden are very strict on libel, if Mbappe has been mentioned then they have a very good source
     
  12. Aensensen

    Aensensen Member+

    Jun 10, 2011
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Fair enough. I was not aware of this.

    It seemed like desperation after what just happened.
     
  13. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Real Madrid
    There's nothing good performances can't fix. Just come back and ball.
     
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  14. INST

    INST Member+

    Real Madrid
    Aug 15, 2023
    Well yeah because I legit can’t find this in any court ruling. And that was the question to which you replied:

    So which court case did this hold up in? I’m legitimately curious because FIFA would make laws stating they own you if they could. But it doesn’t mean the rule is in compliance with European law.
     
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  15. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    While the player deserves a chance to prove himself in Madrid, this was an absolutely stupid idea. Somebody that cheats on effort on one end, will cheat on effort on another. Got to call a spade a spade. There will need to be a response after this.
     
  16. Aensensen

    Aensensen Member+

    Jun 10, 2011
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    The upcoming game against Barca will be crucial. They've been steamrolling opponents in LaLiga and it seems like Flick found a good system for them. If Mbappe has a masterclass in el classico he will become everyone's darling overnight.
     
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  17. lecannois

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    France
    Jul 6, 2023
    #1567 lecannois, Oct 15, 2024
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    I believe in n 2020 or 2021 there was a lawsuit filed against the international calendar by FIFA, which is what this falls under, as it being unfair to players. The complaint wasn’t for this aspect but for the calendar becoming too dense and impacting the health of the players.

    This I’m sure you can find. Both the clubs and players agree to FIFA terms… so that’s why nobody will bring up compulsory attendance. But changing circumstances like adding games post contract signature may be. It’s a weak one and I don’t think it was even heard. Regardless of what we think, if your total days of work and vacation days are no more than a normal worker, there is nothing there.
     
  18. lecannois

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    France
    Jul 6, 2023
    Mbappe was removed from a sponsor picture for Adidas today, where he appeared previously. Interesting timing.

    There is a zero tolerance clause re sexual assault with all sponsors nowadays so Real Madrid is likely making sure that they’re not jeopardizing their sponsor agreement.

    What an absolute idiot Mbappe has become. France will definitely not call him if he’s part of the investigation, which we’ll know soon. That’s how Benzema got left off as well.
     
  19. Aensensen

    Aensensen Member+

    Jun 10, 2011
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    To be fair, the rape articles initially just used his name cause the rape happened in the same hotel where he was staying. The thing is nobody from the police made any statements involving Mbappe's name, but since Mbappe himself commented with "Fake news" the newspapers are now milking it, calling him a "suspect" who "came out to deny allegations".

    Meanwhile Mbappe is back at Valdebebas working on improving his fitness alongside Courtois and Lunin.
     
  20. .halamadrid2.

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    Nov 5, 2010
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    According to Swedish media the alleged victim reported the rape and harassment after a visit to the Dr 2 days after the alleged incident(s). The police have taken a top, trousers and a pair of knickers into evidence. Right now the allegations aren't strong enough to make it to court as the allegations are on the lower end of the legal spectrum meaning for the moment it's just heresay. Let's see how things develop. It could be a potential gold digger or a real victim of sexual violence.
     
  21. Aensensen

    Aensensen Member+

    Jun 10, 2011
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    I really don't think he's actually a suspect. It seems like it's just a journalistic spin to get more engagement with the articles.
     
  22. lecannois

    lecannois Member+

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    France
    Jul 6, 2023
    It's more serious than that as both L'Equipe and RMC have confirmed that the suspect in the case is Mbappe.

    RMC brought in a legal expert here: https://rmcsport.bfmtv.com/football...tionne-selon-une-avocate_VN-202410150506.html

    She says that it's highly likely that Mbappe will get called in for questioning if they can place him at the scene with the alleged victim.

    I don't know how it works in Sweden... but it becomes a he-said, she-said type of thing unless there are other witnesses or circumstances.
     
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  23. .halamadrid2.

    .halamadrid2. Member+

    Nov 5, 2010
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    Perhaps,but it's quoting a "source" that has identified Mbappe as the main suspect. And I'll hazard a guess that it comes from the police
     
  24. .halamadrid2.

    .halamadrid2. Member+

    Nov 5, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Right now the prosecutor has classed it as "skäligen misstänkt" meaning it's all circumstantial. It could change as time goes but right now this wouldn't make it to court. If a source has outed Mbappe then there must be some evidence somewhere that proves he was involved somehow.
     
  25. Seoul Villan

    Seoul Villan Member+

    Feb 16, 2011
    Mbappe is a Nike athlete. He was removed from the advert because of that, likely due to specific limitations of where his likeness wearing Adidas product for Real Madrid only.
     

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