The PreFascist England Chronicles: Police Kill Protestor

Prefascist? If I was an English resident, the amount of CCTV cameras alone would scare the crap out of me.

 

it used to when I first came here. but you'd be surprised how easily you get used to them. when I consciously think about it it still creeps me out a bit though.

it really is getting out of hand here. the things the government is asking for, and too often getting, are unbelievable. complete DNA DB, 90 days detention, long-term house arrests without trial, etc etc...

 

Brown by far is the biggest idiot of them all.

 

so fascism is bad now?

 

All of a sudden the left side of the picture of the guy was cut out. Edited out.

So did that guy die of a heat attack. He should have ate right and exercised once in a while. He could have tripped and got the same kind of heart attack.

 

Is it illegal to face the CCTV and just flip it the bird? Cuz that's pretty much what I would do.

 

Don't you know that no police officer anywhere in the world has ever done anything wrong?

 

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Attempted to fyp your post for grammar & clarity, but failed in the second part.
Didn't anyone ever tell him to keep his hands out of his pockets when walking?
Or, if a police riot squad is approaching, complete with snarling dogs, it's prudent to get out of their way?

 

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I hope you're not serious.

 

Really sad for what happened, It will be interesting to see what caused the death.

 

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I'm not defending that what the officer did but I think this has gotten rather out of hand. Pushing the man over wasn't the right way to move him along and may have contributed towards him having a heart attack but it's not as if the police beat him or shot him.

Pushing him over is a possible contributing factor in his death not the cause, call me a sucker but I'm pretty sure that the Officer didn't mean to cause him any serious harm and is probably in a pretty bad place knowing that what he did could have lead to someone dying.

Also to tar the entire Met with the same brush as protester killing fascists is calling all German Nazi's. It must be bloody hard being a Policeman these days, I can't remember the last time I read something positive about them in the press but they are constantly being vilified. 99% of them do a damn fine job protecting us and should be praised but instead all we get is a stream of constant negativity from both the right and left wing media who are just as bad as each other at being complete and utter douches who are so out of touch with reality and their heads so far their own arses, I'm looking at you left wing media especially, they have no idea about the real world and their lives revolve around shock headlines and getting stories no matter who it damages or who's lives they destroy.

******** the press!

 

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From what I can see he pushed him using the baton

Exactly, it's an assault not a murder

******** my dictionary

No they didn't, the heart attack killed him. It has yet to be proved that pushing him over was the cause of this.

He assaulted him but he didn't kill him. Yes you should because you and the rest of the media are classing him as a murder when he clearly didn't mean to kill him or even do any serious harm.

 

It is presumptive to assume that the police contributed to the man's death. Maybe the whole reason that the man was walking so slow and not responding to the police trying to move him was that he was already having some difficulty. Yes, the officer should have exercised some restraint, but that doesn't mean he necessarily had anything to do with the man's death. In the video the man appears to walk away without any problem.

Edit: Also the guy wasn't a protestor, so the title is misleading in that respect.

 

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This statement stipulates that he did mean to do him some harm. Which he did. When a person acts with intent to do harm and their victim dies it is a serious crime, nomatter the intentions. Ill be interested in the medical examiners report. Do you think he is being put under pressure both official and unofficial? I do. Which leads to this...

I accept your statement that 99% of police action is of the proper, respectable variety. My problem isnt with the bulk of their actions. My problem is with their assumption of impunity, their absolute willingness to lie and slander after the fact, their tribal assertions of inherent righteousness, and their demands that they never be publicly contradicted no matter their behavior.

My only interaction with london cops was after a Fulham match. There is a long walk back to the train. A hundred people were walking en' mass. Two mounted cops maneuvered their horses onto the path right hen the horses were ready to dump. these cops deliberately dropped twenty pounds of horse shit directly in the path of a pack of pedestrians. When I chastised them for it they threatened me. When I told my companion that cops are assholes everywhere they got really irate. Nothing more came of it.