Post-match: The Post Presidency :: Trump Faces The Music Thread

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  1. Brilliant Oranje

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    Trump Winery
    Trump Winery is a winery situated on Trump Vineyard Estates near Charlottesville, Virginia. It is valued between $5 million and $25 million.[205]

    The vineyard was purchased by Trump in April 2011 from Patricia Kluge, the widow of John Kluge. The property was distressed.[206] and was officially opened in October 2011.[207] Trump Winery is situated in the Monticello Wine Trail. Trump's son Eric was a partner in the purchase.[208]

    After purchasing the property, Trump turned over management of the winery to his son.

    Golf courses
    Main article: Donald Trump and golf
    The Trump Organization owns or manages sixteen golf courses in the United States, Scotland, Ireland, and the United Arab Emirates.[209] As of 2015, Trump listed income of at least $176 million in an 18-month span from his golf courses—about 41% of the low-end estimate of his income.[205]

    United States
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    Trump National Golf Club, Los Angeles
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    Trump Turnberry golf course, Scotland
    International
    • Trump International Golf Club, Dubai: A golf course owned by Damac Properties and managed by the Trump Organization.[211] Located in the Damac Hills residential development, it opened in 2017.[211] Trump's involvement with Damac head Hussain Sajwani has been cited as a source of possible conflicts of interest for Trump's presidency.[212][213]
    • Trump International Golf Links and Hotel Ireland
    • Trump International Golf Links, Scotland: A links course built in Balmedie, Aberdeenshire. The development of the course was controversial because of local concerns about the environmental impact, as well as a legal battle over the construction of a nearby offshore wind farm.
    • Trump Turnberry: A historic golf resort with three courses and a hotel, located in South Ayrshire, Scotland. Trump purchased the property in 2014, despite having threatened to withdraw any further investment in Scotland amid the wind farm controversy.[214]
    • Trump World Golf Club, Dubai: A second golf course under construction by Damac in its Akoya Oxygen housing development.[215] In February 2021, it was announced that the opening of the golf course was delayed until at least 2022. It was being asserted that the delay was due to the COVID-19 pandemic, but the Emirati developers were struggling to finish the real estate projects even before the pandemic.[216]
     
  2. Brilliant Oranje

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    Real estate licensing
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    Trump International Hotel, Las Vegas
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    Turkish Prime Minister Erdoğan attended the opening of the Trump Towers Istanbul AVM in 2012.
    Many developers pay Donald Trump to market their properties and be the public face for their projects.[217] For that reason, Trump does not own many of the buildings that display his name.[217] According to Forbes, this portion of Trump's empire, actually run by his children, has a valuation of $562 million. According to Forbes, there were 33 licensing projects under development including seven "condo hotels" (the seven Trump International Hotel and Tower developments). Trump has generated more than $74 million in real estate licensing deals and has $823.3 million worth of real estate in joint ventures.[181]

    • Manhattan:
      • Trump Palace: 200 East 69th Street, New York, NY.
      • Trump Parc and Trump Parc East: Two adjoining buildings on Central Park South on the southwest corner of The Avenue of the Americas. Trump Parc East is a 14-story apartment building and Trump Parc (the former Barbizon Plaza Hotel) is a 38-story condominium building.
      • Trump Plaza: 167 East 61st Street, New York, NY (36-story, Y-shaped plan condominium building on the Upper East Side)
      • 610 Park Avenue (Old Mayfair Hotel): Trump is helping with the construction and development of this property for Colony NorthStar.
      • Trump SoHo: Former name of The Dominick, originally a partnership with Bayrock Group. The SoHo hotel was rebranded following The Trump Organization's exit from the project.[218] "Russian-born" Felix Sater was listed as an employee of Bayrock when the partnership was born. Sater had served time in prison for injuries he inflicted in a bar fight before the Soho partnership.[98]
    • New York City suburbs:
    • Florida:
    • Other domestic:
     
  3. Brilliant Oranje

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    • International:
      • Elite Tower, Ramat Gan, Israel was a planned commercial real estate development slated to be the tallest building in Israel. Called the Trump Plaza Tower, Trump shelved the plans in 2007, when the site was sold on to Azorim for NIS 306.5 million.[233][234] Trump purchased the site for $44 million.[235]
      • Trump International Hotel & Tower Lido Lake, West Java, Indonesia. Trump Hotels will be involved with the 700-hectare Lido Lake development, one hour from Bandung, Indonesia including a six-star luxury resort, 18-hole signature Ernie Els championship golf course, elite Lifestyle Country Club & Spa as well as a high-end residential offering including luxury villas and condominiums.[236][237] One of the Trump Organization's partners in Indonesia is Tanoesoedibjo, who is "building up a following as he mulls a presidential run", according to Forbes.[97][98] MNC Lido City is partially funded by the Chinese government.[238][239]
      • Trump International Hotel & Tower Vancouver, Vancouver. The 63-story, 188-metre-high (617-foot), mixed-use tower in Downtown Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, was primarily a project of Donald Trump Jr. and the CEO of Malaysian company TA Global Berhad. It was completed in 2016.[97] The Trump hotel occupies the first 15 floors of the building.[240] The hotel had reported declining revenue in 2019 and closed in March 2020. Its owner, a subsidiary of TA Global Berhad, filed for bankruptcy in August 2020.[241][242]
      • Trump Towers Istanbul, Istanbul, Turkey[243]
    Trump International Hotels Management LLC
    The company, which did business as the Trump Hotel Collection (THC) until it was renamed Trump Hotels, manages Trump properties and Trump-branded hotels, residential buildings, and golf courses worldwide.[248][249][250]

    In 2008, THC formed a consortium with the Evergrande Real Estate Group and a Hongkong-based fund to bid on the construction of the tallest skyscraper in Guangzhou. The bid fell apart when Evergrande withdrew during the global recession.[251][252][253] In 2012, Trump Hotels opened an office in Shanghai and in 2014 entered into a branding and management partnership with the State Grid Corporation of China, China's largest state-owned company, for a major development in Beijing. The project was abandoned a few months into Trump's 2016 presidential campaign when Chinese authorities began a corruption investigation into State Grid
     
  4. superdave

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    Man, that’s some impressive cutting and pasting there champ!
     
  5. Sounders78

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    I don't have to. Your premise was undermined by yourself, using examples that were not indicative of what you were saying. At this point you are arguing with yourself.

    You should have done your research before posting, not simply assuming what you've been told is true. But then, that's the nature of a cultish Trump supporter - believe what the orange felon tells you, even though he demonstrably lies through his teeth. He is a convicted felon, after all.
     
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  6. Dr. Wankler

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    Speciest pig!


    Oops. Make that “speciest human!”
     
  7. Funkfoot

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    Please, do invest all your money in Donald Trump.
     
  8. Naughtius Maximus

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    Also, let's be honest, the fact he managed to take what he was left by his father which would be valued at around $12Bn in today's money, and turn into about a quarter of that, in INVESTMENT PROPERTIES, one of the few areas that are normally guaranteed to go UP in value, shows he's a piss-poor businessman.
     
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  9. bigredfutbol

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    Thanks for an excuse to repost this musical masterpiece:

     
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  10. Brilliant Oranje

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    Okay, but at least you're not denying he's had many successful investments in businesses
     
  11. Brilliant Oranje

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    The complete opposite is true. He took huge risks by investing all that money and spreading out his real estate empire. It could have easily all gone bankrupt.

    But I don't expect keyboard warriors to understand that
     
  12. celito

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    I mean ... he tells you he is doing it on purpose. And technically he does say ... "I agree". It's a horrible answer nonetheless.
     
  13. Sounders78

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    He's a convicted felon who is a narcissistic fascist. He clearly has dementia, favors Putin over America and follows Hitler's playbook.

    You support a completely amoral individual and cannot critically evaluate and support an argument. If this were 1930s Germany, you would be a Nazi.
     
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  14. ShayG

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    REPOST!!

    That abomination has been posted before?

    I am so happy I bail out of threads once there are 5 consecutive music posts; saves a lot of of wear and tear on my eyes and ears

    :)
     
  15. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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    This fvcker ain't innocent

    hiaesopily.gif
     
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  16. soccernutter

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    All you did is list his real estate holdings, not what he bought them for, how much he put into them (personally) nor what the current value(s) are as set by independent assessors.
    You are also ignoring that he was found guilty of fraud for misrepresenting the value of (some of) his properties in NY.

    Additionally, all his current "businesses" are real estate. @usscouse gave examples of a number of non-real estate businesses that failed.

    Oh, and I can't wait for the earnings report on $DJT. A company valued in the billions based on stock price, yet it will probably have less than $100m in revenue, let alone earnings.
     
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  17. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    More suckers & losers

     
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  18. Naughtius Maximus

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    WTF are you talking about? If he'd just kept the investments he had and maintained them he'd be worth MORE then he is now. He's actually worse off than if he'd done nothing.
     
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  19. MattR

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    Maybe Trump should release his tax reports for the last couple of decades so we can see how bigly successful he is and make sure that none of his money has come from overseas adverserial dictators!
     
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  20. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    Forbes says that the claims that he would've made more investing daddy's reichsmarks in the S&P 500 aren't true...up to COVID. Then his business & political fortunes dipped and the S&P 500 was a better investment

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/danale...just-invested-his-inheritance-into-the-sp500/
     
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  21. soccernutter

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    There has been criticism of how Forbes estimates net worth of individuals, particularly those who don't have a lot of public investments, such as Trump.
     
  22. Naughtius Maximus

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    I think valuations of someone like Trump, the valuation of whom seems to go up and down depending on hos he feels on the day, is EXTREMELY questionable. So quite how they're coming up with their figures is a bit of a mystery, tbh.
     
  23. superdave

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    What would he be if this was 1940s Holland?
     
  24. Brilliant Oranje

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    What would you guys be if this were Russia under Stalin, or communist China??
     
  25. ElNaranja

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    Same thing Trump would make us: prisoners in concentration camps.
     
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