Post-match: The Post Presidency :: Trump Faces The Music Thread

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  1. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey
    So today is the day the Judge set for Garland’s DOJ to file an appeal....or she would release the misleading memo. Nothing from DOJ so far......
     
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  2. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

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    New Jersey
    I’m beginning to think Garland was a mistake.
     
  3. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    What, you want him to try to persuade her not to release the memo??
     
  4. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
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    No. But not responding to the judge’s request until the midnight deadline kinda implies you’re going to appeal. Do you have a different read?

    this should be a slam dunk. The judge accused Barr of lying to her about the contents of the memo. That there is any debate on what to do in Garland’s DOJ says a lot...and not much good.
     
  5. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

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    Am I wrong in my understanding...?
    If he doesn’t respond at all, then the memo gets released, right?

    Or are you saying he should have already responded by saying he wouldn’t appeal?
     
  6. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

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    I think he is saying he should have already responded. That makes no sense to me. Just don't respond and when asked say we got caught up in other work and thought you had more time. It is a subtle wink wink FU Barr and Magats.
     
  7. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    Remember the hoo raw when the Defense of Marriage Act was not defended-- why announce that you aren't going to fight release? Just let the time expire without comment.

    Who owes anything at all to the Barr DOJ?
     
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  8. Yoshou

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    I’m beginning to think you don’t understand politics...
     
  9. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

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    Explain the politics of this to me



    and then explain why we’re talking about the politics of this when discussing a FOIA request in which the DOJ lied about what was contained in the memo in order to stop the release.
     
  10. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

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    It is a partial appeal. They are not concerned with the Judge releasing some info but making public redacted info sets a bad precedent. They are tryna deal with that aspect.
     
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  11. soccernutter

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    Not to mention that the DoJ is supposed to non-political. Barr pissed on that, but redacted info is usually names of people, or other highly sensitive information. Perhaps some or all of that redacted information is relevant to a current investigation, and releasing that information could damage that investigation.
     
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  12. Yoshou

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    #887 Yoshou, May 24, 2021
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    It’s A LOT more than that. Later in the tweet thread she posts the document and only the first page and a half of a 9 page document is visible.
     
  13. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

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  14. Yoshou

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    Which is odd, because he was not acting in his role as President when making his speech and this argument would seem to allow for Presidents to commit any crime they wish while President..
     
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  15. dapip

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  16. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

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    Just to note.. If there are indictments, it is not likely going to be for Trump or a family member. It is most likely going to be their accountant and the hope is to flip him and get him to spill the beans on Trump and Co.
     
  17. celito

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    What he did wouldn't be considered a crime being a President or civilian / political figure. I think that has already been clarified wether we like it or not.
     
  18. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

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    Didn't say it was. Just noting that Trump's lawyer's logic that he had "absolute immunity" would extend to crimes as well. However, in this case, its a civil lawsuit over Trump's actions as a civilian who happened to be President. He shouldn't have immunity in that case and they should struggle to justify that him speaking at a political rally was part of his duties as the President.
     
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  19. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Trumpanzees have said his speech made them ransack the Capitol. I'll take their words for it.
     
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  20. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
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    FOLLOW ME!
     
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  21. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

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  22. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Some were wearing 1-6 t-shirts
     
  23. HerthaBerwyn

    HerthaBerwyn Member+

    May 24, 2003
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    Its called grooming
     
  24. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Some AAPI group should sue Trump for causing the rise in hate crimes.
     
  25. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    The Grand Jury choices start today.
    Jesus, do not let the trumps slide again. The country.....or me couldn’t handle it.
     

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