The Poll Number Shows

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by verybdog, Feb 13, 2003.

  1. verybdog

    verybdog New Member

    Jun 29, 2001
    Houyhnhnms
    Bush's ratings drop fast.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/02/13/opinion/polls/main540574.shtml

    Bush kept asking - is UN getting his message yet?

    Look at the poll, has Bush got people's message yet?

    BUSH’S RATING ON HANDLING THE ECONOMY

    Approve:

    Now
    38%
    1/23/02
    44%
    2/2002
    54%
    3/2001
    55%

    Disapprove:

    Now
    53%
    1/23/03
    49%
    2/2002
    37%
    3/2001
    28%


    I still haven't had a clue as to why we want to have a war with Iraq? Is war the only way to boost his ratings?
     
  2. Garcia

    Garcia Member

    Dec 14, 1999
    Castro Castro
    Fox news (I guess not done by them) just showed:

    70 some % approve of admins work against terrorism
     
  3. verybdog

    verybdog New Member

    Jun 29, 2001
    Houyhnhnms
    Consider this:

    COUNTRY IS HEADED IN THE…

    Right direction
    35%
    Wrong track
    56%
     
  4. verybdog

    verybdog New Member

    Jun 29, 2001
    Houyhnhnms
    And also look at this:

    GOOD ENOUGH REASON TO GO TO WAR WITH IRAQ?

    Prevent weapons of mass destruction:

    Yes
    66%
    No
    28%

    Remove Hussein:

    Yes
    56%
    No
    41%

    So 56% of the Americans want to go to war because they want to remove Saddam. Why? What has Saddam done to them personally? Can someone explain to me?
     
  5. Danwoods

    Danwoods Member

    Mar 20, 2000
    Bertram, TX, US
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    Houston Dynamo
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    United States
    It has been explained over and over again. The proof that we must get rid of Saddam has been presented daily. Can't you see it? Bush and Powell have explained in terms that anyone with a 5th grade education can see that if we don't get rid of Saddam he'll be coming across the Mexican border with the communists in a matter of months.

    Of course if you have more than a 5th grade education then questioning the evidence is a good thing to do.
     
  6. Cannon

    Cannon Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    Sep 2, 2001
    Washington, DC metro
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You have got to be joking. Saddam isn't just some guy who we need to attack each and every one of us personally for the public to recognize that he poses a serious threat to their safety and interests. He rules over a state with WMD, a history of attacking his neighbors in a volatile region, and we recently fought a war with him. Has OBL done anything to you personally? Maybe you know someone killed in the attacks. However, there are tens of millions of Americans who did not know anyone hurt by the 9/11 attacks but I bet nearly all of them would support our actons to "remove" him and attack his organization.

    You also fail to realize that the two questions are directly connected to eachother. If you ask the same question but first said "What if Iraq has no WMD or connections to terrorist groups, would removing Saddam be enough of a reason to attack Iraq?" I bet support would drop a great deal. Thus to artificially seperate the rule of Saddam from the weapons which make him a threat is misleading. The article show that only 5% of respondents believe that Iraq doesn't have WMD. You simply can't expect them to isolate that fact from Saddam's rule.
     
  7. Dan Loney

    Dan Loney BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 10, 2000
    Cincilluminati
    Club:
    Los Angeles Sol
    Nat'l Team:
    Philippines
    Quick, who has killed more Americans, OBL or Saddam? Go ahead, count the Gulf War.

    And who are we ignoring?

    And who are we attacking?
     
  8. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
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    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Rebublicans demand a recount...
     
  9. Smiley321

    Smiley321 Member

    Apr 21, 2002
    Concord, Ca
    Yes, everyone knows where OBL is and those dastardly Bushies just turn a blind eye
     
  10. joseph pakovits

    joseph pakovits New Member

    Apr 29, 1999
    fly-over country
    So you're admitting that OBL has outwitted the Bushies' attempts to find him and he is still at large while the Bushies focus on Iraq since they can't find OBL. Nice going, George!
     
  11. Smiley321

    Smiley321 Member

    Apr 21, 2002
    Concord, Ca
    This sounds like an idea for another pool: how long after the invasion before they find Saddam Hussein?

    Judging from the quest for pineapple-face, I'd estimate 2 weeks to find him and another week to drive him out of the French embassy
     
  12. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Those depressing polls about Americans' disinformation regarding Iraqis being on the 9-11 flights provide a clue. And the various Bushies' hints about how 9-11 means we have to go after Saddam didn't help either.
     
  13. Garcia

    Garcia Member

    Dec 14, 1999
    Castro Castro
  14. Garcia

    Garcia Member

    Dec 14, 1999
    Castro Castro
    Polling was conducted by telephone February 11-12, 2003 in the evenings. The sample is 900 registered voters nationwide with a margin of error of ± 3 percentage points. Results are of registered voters, unless otherwise noted. LV = likely voters

    1. Do you approve or disapprove of the job George W. Bush is doing as president?

    Approve Disapprove (DK)
    11-12 Feb 03 57% 32 11
    29-30 Jan 03 59% 28 13
    14-15 Jan 03 63% 28 9
    17-18 Dec 02 65% 26 9
    3-4 Dec 02 65% 24 11

    For the complete list of questions...

    Pessimism about the condition of the nation’s economy continues to grow and, even as war with Iraq seems increasingly inevitable, almost twice as many people say they spend more time thinking about their finances than about war.
     
  15. Ian McCracken

    Ian McCracken Member

    May 28, 1999
    USA
    Club:
    SS Lazio Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    What did Hitler do to us? It's not like he has done anything to us personally.

    Peace,

    Neville Chamberlain
     
  16. Dan Loney

    Dan Loney BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 10, 2000
    Cincilluminati
    Club:
    Los Angeles Sol
    Nat'l Team:
    Philippines
    BZZZT. Godwin violation, that's a forfeit.

    It's not just a good idea. It's the law.
     
  17. Ian McCracken

    Ian McCracken Member

    May 28, 1999
    USA
    Club:
    SS Lazio Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    "Godwin was a f@g."

    Stephen Baldwin
    The Usual Suspects

    (Ok, I have taken some artistic license with the quote, but you get the point)
     
  18. verybdog

    verybdog New Member

    Jun 29, 2001
    Houyhnhnms
    Well, Hitler (or Nazis Germany) was everywhere in Europe, killing, bombing, raping, buring, invading like a bull in a china shop. So the US' war fought against them was a just war.

    But where is Saddam now? Where are these Iraqis now? He's hiding somewhere and its people are bombed, harassed by the big bully Uncle Sam days in and days out to no end for more than a decade--just because US wanted their oil underneath.

    The upcoming Bush war against Iraqis is an immoral, unjust war.
     
  19. Cannon

    Cannon Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    Sep 2, 2001
    Washington, DC metro
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Now we are ignoring OBL? Please show me the slightest shred of evidence that we are ignoring him. I can show you a war in Afghanistan, worldwide attacks on Al Qaeda, much larger funds for programs designed to protect us from terrorism and attack it on a global scale, and massive public attention focused on OBL and his followers. You have nothing to support this idiotic statement.

    Each time you make up these stupid arguments based on lies, it just weakens the few good points you do make.
     
  20. Cannon

    Cannon Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    Sep 2, 2001
    Washington, DC metro
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    News to verybdog: No one tries to fight conventional wars against the US anymore. You won't find us facing conventional attack from other nations. There is simply no way to attack us successfully using those forces so your analogy is meaningless. We and most of our allies face little threat of WWII-style conventional war.
    I won't even try to repeat all of the evidence that shows we are not fighting this war to get Iraq's oil since you are obviously a closedminded fool so there is little point...

    If you want to argue that war is immoral fine make that argument but stop trying to make up objective "facts" to support your hatred of Bush and our policy towards Iraq. I wish most of the anti-war types would make their moral stance against war explicit and stop lying to protest the war. You might have a chance of changing some minds but your repeated lies do nothing but widen the gap between the two sides.
     
  21. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do you people not know who Neville Chamberlain was?

    Ian, that was funny. :)
     
  22. Richie

    Richie Red Card

    May 6, 1999
    Brooklyn, NY, United
    Let's see F the Afgans, F iraq, F Korea I now think we should be isolationists F the rest of the world. They obviously don't want our interference.

    We use all resources for homeland security and for all our people and no one elses.

    Have a massive illegal alien hunt and get all non citizens out of the country.

    F tourism into this country.

    Get the UN out of the US. They will have zero power after we withdraw any way.

    We should get out of Nato, not our business.

    That will make all the great patriots in this country very happy. No wars for us and F the rest.

    All lovers of peace of the US and the world should love that.

    Now the arabs can deal with israel. Other people can deal with their enemies and if we have an attack against us. We can just nuke who ever sent them.

    Let everyone else face their own faiths
     
  23. verybdog

    verybdog New Member

    Jun 29, 2001
    Houyhnhnms
    So what's your justification to use a conventional war (Bush's war) to fight an unconventional war where Iraq is not a player?
     
  24. verybdog

    verybdog New Member

    Jun 29, 2001
    Houyhnhnms
    I thought the US economy is essentially built on the cheap labors of these people, no?
     

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