the police, elvis costello, the clash inducted into rock n roll hall of fame

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  1. _chachi

    _chachi New Member

    Mar 15, 1999
    new jersey, usa
  2. isaac101

    isaac101 New Member

    Mar 1, 2001
    Bethesda, MD
    Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees

    The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame just announced the inductees for its 18th class. The inductees include:

    The Police
    The Clash
    Elvis Costello and the Attractions
    The Righteous Brothers
    AC/DC

    Full story can be found here:
    http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/Music/11/07/music.rockhall.ap/index.html

    Can't really argue with any of these. I think they all deserve to be there.
     
  3. Aimer. Northend Diva

    Dec 7, 2000
    Hollywood
    I really hope The Police reunite to play for the induction ceremony.
     
  4. Mattbro

    Mattbro Member+

    Sep 21, 2001
    The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is so superfluous.
     
  5. Doctor Stamen

    Doctor Stamen New Member

    Nov 14, 2001
    In a bag with a cat.
    What ???. No Ned's Atomic dustbin, Reynolds Girls or Daphne and Celeste ?
     
  6. Eric B

    Eric B Member

    Feb 21, 2000
    the LBC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wouldn't argue with these choices either (although I am reminded of David Lee Roth's quote about Elvis Costello), but who in in the name of Ronnie James Dio does Black Sabbath have to kill to get into this thing?

    They've been a huge influence on various genres over three decades now, and still they get ignored!
     
  7. Dyvel

    Dyvel Member+

    Jul 24, 1999
    The dog end of a day gone by
    Club:
    Leeds United AFC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    I hope not.
     
  8. nancyb

    nancyb Member

    Jun 30, 2000
    Falls Church, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can't argue with those choices.
     
  9. cosmosRIP

    cosmosRIP Member

    Jul 22, 2000
    Brooklyn NY
    Still no Sex Pistols!!!
     
  10. cosmosRIP

    cosmosRIP Member

    Jul 22, 2000
    Brooklyn NY
    What quote?
     
  11. sebakoole

    sebakoole New Member

    Jul 11, 2002
    I wonder how they all feel about this...I'm sure the Police think this is just peanuts. As for Elvis, maybe he can finally truthfully say he's really not angry anymore. And for the boys in the Clash I'm sure they're all sitting back in the garage seeing their bulls__ detectors register in the red. ;)
     
  12. sanariot

    sanariot Member

    Nov 19, 2001
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I second this, but Sting has to lose his fascination with having his own head up his arse before it happens.
     
  13. Footix

    Footix Member

    Dec 11, 1998
    Left Of The Dial
    threads merged here.
     
  14. Eric B

    Eric B Member

    Feb 21, 2000
    the LBC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "The only reason rock critics like Elvis Costello more than us because he looks like them"

    Something like that. If you grew up being subjected to the reviews of Robert Hilburn, you'd get an especially good laugh out of that.
     
  15. jamison

    jamison Member

    Sep 25, 2000
    NYC
    Just so we can properly argue about how much of a scam being inducted is, the Inductees.


    1986

    performers
    Chuck Berry
    James Brown
    Ray Charles
    Sam Cooke
    Fats Domino
    The Everly Brothers
    Buddy Holly
    Jerry Lee Lewis
    Elvis Presley
    Little Richard

    early influences
    Robert Johnson
    Jimmie Rodgers
    Jimmy Yancey

    lifetime achievement
    John Hammond

    non-performers
    Alan Freed
    Sam Phillips



    1987
    performers
    The Coasters
    Eddie Cochran
    Bo Diddley
    Aretha Franklin
    Marvin Gaye
    Bill Haley
    B. B. King
    Clyde McPhatter
    Ricky Nelson
    Roy Orbison
    Carl Perkins
    Smokey Robinson
    Big Joe Turner
    Muddy Waters
    Jackie Wilson

    early influences
    Louis Jordan
    T-Bone Walker
    Hank Williams

    non-performers
    Leonard Chess
    Ahmet Ertegun
    Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller
    Jerry Wexler



    1988
    performers
    The Beach Boys
    The Beatles
    The Drifters
    Bob Dylan
    The Supremes

    early influences
    Woody Guthrie
    Lead Belly
    Les Paul

    non-performers
    Berry Gordy, Jr



    1989
    performers
    Dion
    Otis Redding
    The Rolling Stones
    The Temptations
    Stevie Wonder

    early influences
    The Inkspots
    Bessie Smith
    The Soul Stirrers

    non-performers
    Phil Spector



    1990
    performers
    Hank Ballard
    Bobby Darin
    The Four Seasons
    The Four Tops
    The Kinks
    The Platters
    Simon and Garfunkel
    The Who

    early influences
    Louis Armstrong
    Charlie Christian
    Ma Rainey

    non-performers
    Gerry Goffin and Carole King
    Holland, Dozier and Holland



    1991
    performers
    LaVern Baker
    The Byrds
    John Lee Hooker
    The Impressions
    Wilson Pickett
    Jimmy Reed
    Ike and Tina Turner

    early influences
    Howlin' Wolf

    lifetime achievement
    Nesuhi Ertegun

    non-performers
    Dave Bartholomew
    Ralph Bass



    1992
    performers
    Bobby "Blue" Bland
    Booker T. and the M.G.'s
    Johnny Cash
    The Isley Brothers
    The Jimi Hendrix Experience
    Sam and Dave
    The Yardbirds

    early influences
    Elmore James
    Professor Longhair

    non-performers
    Leo Fender
    Bill Graham
    Doc Pomus



    1993
    performers
    Ruth Brown
    Cream
    Creedence Clearwater Revival
    The Doors
    Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers
    Etta James
    Van Morrison
    Sly and the Family Stone

    early influences
    Dinah Washington

    non-performers
    Dick Clark
    Milt Gabler



    1994
    performers
    The Animals
    The Band
    Duane Eddy
    The Grateful Dead
    Elton John
    John Lennon
    Bob Marley
    Rod Stewart

    early influences
    Willie Dixon

    non-performers
    Johnny Otis



    1995
    performers
    The Allman Brothers Band
    Al Green
    Janis Joplin
    Led Zeppelin
    Martha and the Vandellas
    Neil Young
    Frank Zappa

    early influences
    The Orioles

    non-performers
    Paul Ackerman



    1996
    performers
    David Bowie
    Gladys Knight and the Pips
    Jefferson Airplane
    Little Willie John
    Pink Floyd
    The Shirelles
    The Velvet Underground

    early influences
    Pete Seeger

    non-performers
    Tom Donahue



    1997
    performers
    The (Young) Rascals
    The Bee Gees
    Buffalo Springfield
    Crosby, Stills and Nash
    The Jackson Five
    Joni Mitchell
    Parliament-Funkadelic

    early influences
    Mahalia Jackson
    Bill Monroe

    non-performers
    Syd Nathan



    1998
    performers
    The Eagles
    Fleetwood Mac
    The Mamas and the Papas
    Lloyd Price
    Santana
    Gene Vincent

    early influences
    Jelly Roll Morton

    non-performers
    Allen Toussaint



    1999
    performers
    Billy Joel
    Curtis Mayfield
    Paul McCartney
    Del Shannon
    Dusty Springfield
    Bruce Springsteen
    The Staple Singers

    early influences
    Bob Wills and His Texas Playboys
    Charles Brown

    non-performers
    George Martin



    2000
    performers
    Eric Clapton
    Earth, Wind & Fire
    Lovin' Spoonful
    The Moonglows
    Bonnie Raitt
    James Taylor

    early influences
    Nat "King" Cole
    Billie Holiday

    sidemen
    Hal Blaine
    King Curtis
    James Jamerson
    Scotty Moore
    Earl Palmer

    non-performers
    Clive Davis



    2001
    performers
    Aerosmith
    Solomon Burke
    The Flamingos
    Michael Jackson
    Queen
    Paul Simon
    Steely Dan
    Ritchie Valens

    sidemen
    James Burton
    Johnnie Johnson

    non-performers
    Chris Blackwell



    2002
    performers
    Isaac Hayes
    Brenda Lee
    Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
    Gene Pitney
    Ramones
    Talking Heads

    sidemen
    Chet Atkins

    non-performers
    Jim Stewart


    I like that they induct non-famous types like sidemen who helped make the music happen, but, again, I do think the process is a bit political.
     
  16. cj herrera

    cj herrera New Member

    May 7, 1999
    Oakland, damn straig
    Robert Hilburn! .... Oh, the pain....! No, .... 59 times the pain! The very name makes my eyes bleed with nausea.

    Please tell me he's stopped writing for the LA Times.
     
  17. Foxhound

    Foxhound Red Card

    Jun 15, 2000
    Very political. There seems to be an under-reprensentation of Brits. How can Aerosmith and AC/DC be in before Sabbath ?
     
  18. El Toro

    El Toro New Member

    Aug 30, 2001
    Fountain & Fairfax
    They should arrange it like the NFL or Cooperstown inductions...so many tries and you're out. Sorry pal. Or some years they shouldn't induct anybody.

    But I will so dig AC/DC blowing everyone else away at the induction cermony. Sting's tantric and yoga will not prepare him for Angus' full blast of ROCK!
     
  19. Footix

    Footix Member

    Dec 11, 1998
    Left Of The Dial
    British Acts in the Hall Of Fame
    The Beatles
    The Rolling Stones
    The Kinks
    The Who
    The Yardbirds
    Cream
    Van Morrison
    The Animals
    Elton John
    John Lennon
    Rod Stewart
    Led Zeppelin
    David Bowie
    Pink Floyd
    Paul McCartney
    George Martin
    Eric Clapton
    Queen
    Chris Blackwell
    Police
    Clash
    Elvis Costello


    not one British female inductee...though I'm hard pressed to come up with one I'd nominate right away...
     
  20. obie

    obie New Member

    Nov 18, 1998
    NY, NY
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Black Sabbath is not in because Ozzy has said repeatedly that he would not accept it.

    This was the first year that the Sex Pistols could have been inducted. They weren't selected likely because they were much more of a UK sensation than a US one, and I'd guess that the nominators are mostly Americans. With The Clash in this year, they'll likely go in next.

    Wasn't Van Halen up for induction this year? If Aerosmith can be inducted on their first try. Also, Chic was eligible this year; they will likely get in at some point over the next couple of years.
     
  21. cosmosRIP

    cosmosRIP Member

    Jul 22, 2000
    Brooklyn NY
    I'm pretty sure the Sex Pistols were eligible last year, this is their 2nd year of missing out.
     
  22. obie

    obie New Member

    Nov 18, 1998
    NY, NY
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't know when Never Mind The Bollocks was released in the UK, but it was released in the US by EMI in October 1977, so this is the 25th year. By comparison, Ramones was released in May 1976.
     
  23. cosmosRIP

    cosmosRIP Member

    Jul 22, 2000
    Brooklyn NY
    Wasn't the 'Anarchy in the UK' single late 76?
    As for British female inductees, Dusty Springfield is on that list.
     
  24. bmurphyfl

    bmurphyfl Member

    Jun 10, 2000
    VT
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought Dusty Springfield was British but I'm not positive.

    As for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. The entire concept of a hall of fame for rock is stupid. Rock was born as a form of rebellion. Those pangs of rebellion continued to fuel it through folk, reggae, punk, etc. To institutionalize it in a hall of fame is such a fvcking baby boomer thing to do. It sucks the lifeblood of rebellion out of the music and pushes it into the world of muzak.

    Rock is dangerous at its best and sucks when it is safe inside a tourist trap. I'd urge everyone to reject the hall of fame.

    As the Thomas Jefferson Slave Apartments say "Piss on the rock and roll hall of fame. It is better to be indicted by it than inducted to it."

    Murf
     

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