The playoff situation, September 19 [R]

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by ElJefe, Sep 20, 2002.

  1. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It just got a little clearer tonight, after Dallas' thrilling win.

    [size=+1]LOS ANGELES[/size]

    #1 seed: Win or tie at San Jose.

    #3 seed: Lose at San Jose.

    [size=+1]COLUMBUS[/size]

    #2 seed:
    • Win or draw at Chicago.
    • Lose at Chicago, and the MetroStars either draw at New England or win at New England but don't make up the five-goal difference in their and Columbus' goal differentials.
    #6 seed:
    • Lose at Chicago, and the MetroStars win at New England and make up the five-goal differerence in their and Columbus' goal differentials.
    • Lose at Chicago, and New England wins vs. the MetroStars.

    [size=+1]SAN JOSE[/size]

    #1 seed: Win vs. LA.

    #3 seed:
    • Tie vs. LA.
    • Lose vs. LA and Colorado doesn't make up the 16-goal difference in their and San Jose's goal differentials.

    #4 seed: Lose vs. LA and Colorado makes up the 16-goal difference in their and San Jose's goal differentials.

    [size=+1]DALLAS[/size]

    #4 seed: Colorado draws or loses vs. Kansas City.

    #5 seed: Colorado wins vs. Kansas City.

    [size=+1]COLORADO[/size]

    #3 seed: Win vs. Kansas City, San Jose loses vs. LA and loses the 16-goal difference in their and Colorado's goal differentials.

    #4 seed:
    • Win vs. Kansas City and San Jose draws vs. LA
    • Win vs. Kansas City and San Jose loses vs. LA and doesn't lose the 16-goal difference in their and Colorado's goal differentials.
    #5 seed: Draw or lose vs. Kansas City.

    [size=+1]METROSTARS[/size]

    #2 seed: Win at New England, Columbus loses at Chicago and loses the five-goal advantage in goal differential over the MetroStars.

    #6 seed:
    • Win at New England, Columbus wins or draws at Chicago.
    • Draw at New England, Kansas City draws or loses at Colorado, and Chicago draws or loses vs. Columbus.
    #7 seed:
    • Draw at New England, Kansas City wins at Colorado, and Chicago draws or loses vs. Columbus.
    • Draw at New England, Kansas City draws or loses at Colorado, and Chicago wins vs. Columbus
    • Lose at New England, Kansas City loses at Colorado, Chicago loses vs. Columbus.
    #8 seed:
    • Draw at New England, Kansas City wins at Colorado, and Chicago wins vs. Columbus.
    • Lose at New England, Kansas City wins or draws at Colorado, and Chicago loses vs. Columbus.
    • Lose at New England, Kansas City loses at Colorado, and Chicago wins or draws vs. Columbus.
    Out of playoffs: Lose at New England, Kansas City wins or draws at Colorado, and Chicago wins or draws vs. Columbus.

    [size=+1]KANSAS CITY[/size]

    #6 seed: Win at Colorado and MetroStars draw or lose at New England.

    #7 seed:
    • Win at Colorado and MetroStars win at New England.
    • Draw at Colorado and Chicago draws or loses vs. Columbus.
    • Lose at Colorado, MetroStars win at New England, and Chicago draws or loses vs. Columbus.
    #8 seed:
    • Draw at Colorado and Chicago wins vs. Columbus.
    • Lose at Colorado, MetroStars win at New England, and Chicago wins vs. Columbus
    • Lose at Colorado, MetroStars draw or lose at New England, and Chicago loses vs. Columbus.
    Out of playoffs: Lose at Colorado, MetroStars lose or draw at New England, Chicago wins or draws vs. Columbus.

    [size=+1]NEW ENGLAND[/size]

    #2 seed: Win vs. the MetroStars and Columbus loses at Chicago.

    #6 seed: Win vs. the MetroStars, Columbus draws or wins at Chicago, Kansas City draws or loses at Colorado.

    #7 seed:
    • Win vs. the MetroStars, Columbus draws or wins at Chicago, Kansas City wins at Colorado.
    • Draw vs. the MetroStars, Chicago draws or loses vs. Columbus, Kansas City loses at Colorado.

    #8 seed:
    • Draw vs. the MetroStars, Chicago wins vs. Columbus, and Kansas City loses at Colorado.
    • Draw vs. the MetroStars, Chicago draws or loses vs. Columbus, and Kansas City wins or draws at Colorado.
    • Lose vs. the MetroStars and Chicago loses vs. Columbus.
    Out of playoffs:
    • Draw vs. the MetroStars, Chicago wins vs. Columbus, Kansas City wins or draws at Colorado.
    • Lose vs. the MetroStars and Chicago wins or draws vs. Columbus.
    [size=+1]CHICAGO[/size]

    #6 seed: Win vs. Columbus, MetroStars draw at New England, and Kansas City draws or loses at Colorado.

    #7 seed:
    • Win vs. Columbus, MetroStars win or lose at New England, and Kansas City draws or loses at Colorado.
    • Win vs. Columbus, MetroStars draw at New England, and Kansas City wins at Colorado.
    • Draw vs. Columbus, MetroStars lose at New England, and Kansas City loses at Colorado.
    #8 seed:
    • Win vs. Columbus, MetroStars win or lose at New England, and Kansas City wins at Colorado.
    • Draw vs. Columbus, MetroStars draw at New England, and Kansas City loses at Colorado.
    • Draw vs. Columbus, MetroStars lose at New England, and Kansas City wins or draws at Colorado.
    • Draw vs. Columbus and MetroStars win at New England.
    Out of playoffs:
    • Draw vs. Columbus, MetroStars draw at New England, Kansas City wins or draws at Colorado.
    • Lose vs. Columbus
    [size=+1]DC UNITED[/size]

    Out of playoffs
     
  2. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At this point, teams are in control of their own destiny for the following things:
    • A win or a draw at San Jose clinches the Supporters Shield for LA.
    • A win vs. LA clinches the Supporters Shield for San Jose.
    • A win or a draw at Chicago clinches the Eastern Conference title for Columbus.
    • A win vs. Kansas City clinches home-field advantage for Colorado in their first-round series against Dallas.
    • A win or a draw at New England clinches a playoff spot for the MetroStars.
    • A win or a draw at Colorado clinches a playoff spot for Kansas City.
    • A win vs. the MetroStars clinches a playoff spot for New England.
    • A win vs. Columbus clinches a playoff spot for Chicago.
    In other words, everyone's still got something to play for.
     
  3. Rocket

    Rocket Member

    Aug 29, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks for the update, Dustin.

    It appears that if KC loses to Colorado on Friday, the MetroStars will be guaranteed at least a 7th seed in the playoffs. Am I interpreting this correctly?
     
  4. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yup.

    The worst case scenario at that point for the MetroStars is that they lose to New England and Chicago draws or beats Columbus. In case of a Chicago win, they finish #7 with 37 points, Metros finish #8 with 35 points, and KC finishes #9 with 35 points, because Metros owns the head-to-head, 1-0-1. In case of a Chicago draw, all three teams finish with 35 points. Chicago wins the head-to-head with a record of 4-2 and finishes #7. Metros win the two-way head-to-head with KC and finish #8.
     
  5. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Whaddya know, I forgot that scenario for the MetroStars.
     
  6. empennage

    empennage Member

    Jan 4, 2001
    Phoenix, AZ
  7. Northside Rovers

    Jan 28, 2000
    Austin TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Go Kansas City. I am a Wizards fan for a day.

    It feels kind of lonely.
     
  8. Father Ted

    Father Ted BigSoccer Supporter

    Manchester United, Galway United, New York Red Bulls
    Nov 2, 2001
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
  9. GPK

    GPK BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 5, 1999
    San Diego, CA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is an update Father Ted.

    And a sticky.

    Thanks Dustin.
     

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