The Pickford Richarlison Thread: aka The Injury Thread III

A player of Thiago's quality is one of those special cases where it's worth taking the risk re his injuries because the guy is so effing good.

When he was bought I think we were just coming off winning the league and we had a very solid squad but adding him was like that cherry on top who would take us to an even higher level. Then covid hit and some horrible injuries blighted our season which pretty wasted the benefits of a Thiago close to his prime.

I don't regret signing him and if we had to do the deal all over again I'd still take him for 20-25 m.

 

Yep , exactly . We need a mid now and we'll need another next summer.

 

What's the injury prognosis on Oxlade, btw? Was it a severe hamstring tear? Or something else....

 

Ox was so good when he first came to Liverpool. Injuries absolutely devastated and derailed his career.

 

annoying, having him, Jones and Thiago unavailable at the same time.

 

currently unavailable (assuming Keita is OK) ....
Kelleher
Tsimikas
Konate
Ramsey
Thiago
Jones
Ox
Jota
plus maybe Matip ?

 

With so many out injured so early into the season is this just bad luck or is something wrong with our preseason training regime?

 

and looks like we can add Bobby - maybe? - to that list. and now Nunez suspended for 3 games as well (MU, Bournemouth, Newcy).

one school of thought is our players as a group were run into the ground over last season's marathon 63 (?) games and needed longer than usual to recover ... not less time which is what they got.

jesus a couple of weeks ago we were all aglow at how strong our squad is. now it feels like we don't have enough players at all.

 

Hmm … is Klopp a hoarder? We have far too many players in that midfield on whom we can’t rely but seemingly unable or unwilling to release.

 

Klopp's a great player manager, and a very emotional guy, he gets a lot out of his players. If he has a real flaw it seems to be excessive loyalty to "his boys".

 

I have to agree. I think, having been a low league player himself, he also knows the psychological impact of being shoved out of the door.

 

Has anybody specifically defined (publicly) what this injury is that Curtis Jones has??

 

Bloody hell-- it does look as if we were in a perfect storm (or is that sh!t storm?) last week leading upon to match day 2 on Monday with players dropping like flies. It's a pure wonder that we managed to patch up a team together.

 

Best I can tell (hard to keep track) this is the fitness / availability status of the first team:

Alison - just back from injury
Keleher - injured
Adrian

Gomez - carrying a problem
VvD
Konate - injured
TAA
Matip - injured
Ramsay - injured
Robbo
Tsimi - just back from injury
Nat
Sepp

Hendo - carrying a problem
Fab
Thiago - injured
Millie
Ox - injured
Keita - just back from illness
Curtis - injured
Harvey

Bobby - carrying a problem
Mo
Nunez - banned 3 games
Jota - injured
Diaz
Carvalho


Total 27 players, of whom just about 50% (14? 13?) are out for sure or are less than 100% fit.

 

It's a dreadful start to the season.

MOAN-- I still think we should have beaten Crystal Palace has we scored in that opening spell when we were flying.END OF MOAN

 

You can add Kaide Gordon to the injury list . If he was fit I'm certain he'd be in consideration given the # of injuries right now.

 

Agreed.

A sh!tstorm is what it is.

 

Matip’s injury is looking more complex than originally thought. Keita is injured again but I’m getting the view that Klopp is at the end of his tether with him.

 

We know what we've got with Keita, talented player but highly part time. Can't afford part timers with our ambitions.

 

I knew 2021-22 Matip was too good to be true.

 

I have to seriously question Klopp's regimen this summer.
The maximum # of games last season.
Lots of players getting stuck in those three int'l matches at the end of the season.
A short break.
Then a return to his desired pre-season with lots of travel and double and triple sessions - including before friendlies in horrendous weather.
Is it any wonder we have so many broken bodies?
Thank god so few of our players will be at the WC.