The Philadelphia Union Thread

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by ussoccer97531, Mar 21, 2021.

  1. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  3. bballshawn

    bballshawn Member+

    Feb 5, 2014
    Delaware
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Ben bender haas leapfrogged Cavan
     
  4. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ben Bender was unceremoniously released by Charlotte just like a month ago smh
     
  5. Dynamo Kev

    Dynamo Kev Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    If you value big bodies that run around, press and are unable to create anything the final third, then yes, he has. Carnell is in trouble when teams figure out how to avoid his press. I can't believe it's taking so long. Aside from Quinn and Wagner, they cannot create. 60 mins against a 10 man Dallas team and they had one shot on goal.
    I love the academy but can't stand their playing style.
     
  6. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FCD was extremely lucky. Philly had a bunch of very close shots that missed. One of those days that the shooting boots weren't calibrated correctly.
     
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  7. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Abdoulaye Diop (‘10): Remember the name.
     
  8. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  9. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
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  10. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  11. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
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  12. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  13. don Lamb

    don Lamb Member+

    mine
    United States
    Aug 31, 2017
    Cavan probably didn't get back from U17 duty until late in the week...
     
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  14. Dynamo Kev

    Dynamo Kev Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    That may have something to do with it but there's a part of Cavan's game that Carnell does not rate/trust. I would assume it's the pressing/defensive responsibilities. He has 15 mins of league play halfway through the season. The following players have more MLS minutes than Cavan:
    Bedoya, Bender, Donovan, Anderson, Rafanello.
     
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  15. don Lamb

    don Lamb Member+

    mine
    United States
    Aug 31, 2017
    I'd guess it has more to do with him just being so young than it being about any particular part of his game.
     
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  16. bose03

    bose03 Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2023
    were we expecting that cavan get significant minutes?
     
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  17. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Yes, he’s paid way more than those who play ahead of him, they aren’t capable MLS’ers, and he’s better than them.
     
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  18. don Lamb

    don Lamb Member+

    mine
    United States
    Aug 31, 2017
    His pay has more to do with his demand on the global market in the longer term than it does to do with his current role on the Union (which is currently top of the table).
     
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  19. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    If you’re the owner, I don’t think you appreciate a player you’ve forked over a huge sum to keep playing like 15 minutes the whole season in MLS so far.
     
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  20. don Lamb

    don Lamb Member+

    mine
    United States
    Aug 31, 2017
    If the owner can't see a bigger vision than that kind of short term thinking, I don't think they would have gotten into that position in the first place.
     
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  21. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He got in 3 games last year and has only appeared in 5 games halfway through this season?
     
  22. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Right, I agree, but I also don't see what is the bigger picture where Ben Bender, Indiana Vassilev, Chris Donovan, Jeremy Rafanello, and any other nobody journeymen pros are helping Philadelphia Union win games right now more than Sullivan would.

    If they had a better group of players at his position keeping him out of minutes, nobody would be demanding he play more minutes.
     
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  23. eliwood

    eliwood Member+

    Jul 25, 2016
    Did moving on from McGlynn to retain a sell-on clause make the most economic sense for Philly? Wouldn't they have been better off keeping him and then selling him later if foreign interest builds?
     
  24. Dynamo Kev

    Dynamo Kev Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    His value would decrease if he was sitting behind Indiana Vassilev. He's able to showcase his talents more in Houston and should interest more suitors.
     
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  25. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No. The two New York Teams each get 20% of any sale of Jack McGlynn, because he is originally from the New York area.

    Selling McGlynn within the league actually gets Philly the most value for him. They got over $2M for him from Houston, and possibly an additional $1M+ if certain performance metrics are met. If Houston then sells him on to a foreign club, 50% of that fee would then go to Philly, and the New York teams (60% to Philly, 20% each to Red Bulls and City).

    It's already been mentioned that McGlynn doesn't fit with how Philly wants to play. Moving him to Houston allows McGlynn to flourish.

    https://thefreekick.substack.com/p/transfer-philadelphia-union-sell
     
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