The paucity of English opportunity thread

Discussion in 'England' started by wellno, Aug 9, 2017.

  1. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    English eligible players starting in the Premier League, total per matchday: Season 2020/21

    Matchday 1 - 90/198 = 40.9% (completed )
    Matchday 2 - 79/220 = 35.9%
    Matchday 3 - 80/220 = 36.4%
    Matchday 4 - 80/220 = 36.4%
    Matchday 5 - 81/220 = 36.8%
    Matchday 6 - 82/220 = 37.3%
    Matchday 7 - 90/220 = 40.9%
    Matchday 8 - 86/220 = 39%
    Matchday 9 - 83/220 = 37.7%
    Matchday 10 - 85/220 = 38,6%
    Matchday 11 - 84/220 = 38.2% ( completed )
    Matchday 12 - 83/220 = 37.7%
    Matchday 13 - 88/220 = 40%
    Matchday 14 - 88/220 = 40%
    Matchday 15 - 92/220 = 41.8%
    Matchday 16 - 89/220 = 40.4% ( completed )
    Matchday 17 - 84/220 = 38.2% ( completed )
    Matchday 18 - 80/198 = 40.4% ( Aston Villa v Spurs to be added at a later date )
    Matchday 19 - 72/198 = 36.4% ( Aston Villa v Everton to be added at a later date )
    Matchday 20 - 92/220 = 41.8%
    Matchday 21 - 81/220 = 36.8%
    Matchday 22 - 86/220 = 39%
    Matchday 23 - 92/220 = 41.8%
    Matchday 24 - 87/220 = 39.5%
    Matchday 25 - 86/220 = 39%
     
  2. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Is it a default setting for OGS to just hook off Greenwood at some point during every game? He just seems to do it regardless even if he’s actually one of Utds better forwards. Poor kid looks dejected everytime he comes off, can’t be doing good things for his confidence.
     
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  3. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    He wasn't great today though, was he? James was the only one who was looking dangerous.
     
  4. Iansutton270390

    Iansutton270390 Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Jan 12, 2019
    Is there any way we could have a weekly update on the percentage of English players playing within the top 5 leagues? Abit like how we do with the Premier league. I know it's a huge ask but I would be very interested to see who is getting valuable minutes in a big league.
     
  5. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    To be fair, didn’t see the whole game so you could be right but from what I did see, didn’t think there was much between them but you always know Greenwood will get hooked. Utd fans didn’t seem very happy with the decision on social media but it’s not just this game I’m referring to as in previous games, he seems to always be the one to be sacrificed when he’s not necessarily the worst of the three forwards.
     
  6. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Greenwood’s all round game has improved this season but he’s just not scoring. James had a good game and Rashford can come up with something even when he’s playing really badly.
     
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  7. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    English eligible players starting in the Premier League, total per matchday: Season 2020/21

    Matchday 1 - 90/198 = 40.9% (completed )
    Matchday 2 - 79/220 = 35.9%
    Matchday 3 - 80/220 = 36.4%
    Matchday 4 - 80/220 = 36.4%
    Matchday 5 - 81/220 = 36.8%
    Matchday 6 - 82/220 = 37.3%
    Matchday 7 - 90/220 = 40.9%
    Matchday 8 - 86/220 = 39%
    Matchday 9 - 83/220 = 37.7%
    Matchday 10 - 85/220 = 38,6%
    Matchday 11 - 84/220 = 38.2% ( completed )
    Matchday 12 - 83/220 = 37.7%
    Matchday 13 - 88/220 = 40%
    Matchday 14 - 88/220 = 40%
    Matchday 15 - 92/220 = 41.8%
    Matchday 16 - 89/220 = 40.4% ( completed )
    Matchday 17 - 84/220 = 38.2% ( completed )
    Matchday 18 - 80/198 = 40.4% ( Aston Villa v Spurs to be added at a later date )
    Matchday 19 - 72/198 = 36.4% ( Aston Villa v Everton to be added at a later date )
    Matchday 20 - 92/220 = 41.8%
    Matchday 21 - 81/220 = 36.8%
    Matchday 22 - 86/220 = 39%
    Matchday 23 - 92/220 = 41.8%
    Matchday 24 - 87/220 = 39.5%
    Matchday 25 - 86/220 = 39%
    Matchday 26 - 78/220 = 35.4%
     
  8. BarryfromEastenders

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  9. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Lol! What a depressing stat about an English team!
     
  10. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    Well the FA and the government had the means to introduce quotas but in the end the state is built in service to capital, so they were always going to go the way that made the most money.
     
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  11. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Just seen this for anyone interested! Live Chelsea v Spurs U18 on Chelsea You tube channel

     
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  12. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Just looking through the line ups for these U18’s games today and just noticed that most teams have a lot of English representation except for Utd who have just 3 players that qualify for England who are starting and to be honest that’s pitiful for this level.
     
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  13. Slater582

    Slater582 Member

    Jul 21, 2008
    Shrewsbury, England
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Would quotas help the national team? Marcotti doesn't think so.


    Thanks, enjoyed that.:D
    Devine & Scarlett looked too good for this level.
     
  14. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    Marcotti is someone who has said in the past that player development is a fluke because academies across Europe all do the same things. He might be right in this case, but he's no authority on the topic. It's a bit of a blind spot for him if anything.
     
  15. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    United went on a massive foreign recruitment drive at youth level before Brexit. The word coming out of the club is that they think the academy has more talent in it now than at anytime in history. There are a number of really highly rated English players. United have just signed Malachi Sharpe from Derby who is supposed to be exceptional. The whispers about Kai Rooney is that he’s a chip off the old block as well.
     
  16. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Well, that’s good to hear that they have some good English prospects coming through as you always hear the narrative that we have loads of talent coming through so when I saw Utd U18’s only starting three English kids, I started to wonder if there’s an issue with the development in the younger age groups, hence the need to sign so many foreign recruits. I know they had to take the chance to sign many due to Brexit restrictions enforced now but still.

    Yeah Malchai Sharpe looks a good prospect though, will have to keep an eye on him and young Rooney

     
  17. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Yeah, I don’t get to see that many games these days at this level and just stumbled across it on Twitter as someone said it’s on YouTube. Would be great if everyone can post links on here if they hear of any games that are on easy accessible platforms in the future.
     
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  18. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    English eligible players starting in the Premier League, total per matchday: Season 2020/21

    Matchday 1 - 90/198 = 40.9% (completed )
    Matchday 2 - 79/220 = 35.9%
    Matchday 3 - 80/220 = 36.4%
    Matchday 4 - 80/220 = 36.4%
    Matchday 5 - 81/220 = 36.8%
    Matchday 6 - 82/220 = 37.3%
    Matchday 7 - 90/220 = 40.9%
    Matchday 8 - 86/220 = 39%
    Matchday 9 - 83/220 = 37.7%
    Matchday 10 - 85/220 = 38,6%
    Matchday 11 - 84/220 = 38.2% ( completed )
    Matchday 12 - 83/220 = 37.7%
    Matchday 13 - 88/220 = 40%
    Matchday 14 - 88/220 = 40%
    Matchday 15 - 92/220 = 41.8%
    Matchday 16 - 89/220 = 40.4% ( completed )
    Matchday 17 - 84/220 = 38.2% ( completed )
    Matchday 18 - 80/198 = 40.4% ( Aston Villa v Spurs to be added at a later date )
    Matchday 19 - 72/198 = 36.4% ( Aston Villa v Everton to be added at a later date )
    Matchday 20 - 92/220 = 41.8%
    Matchday 21 - 81/220 = 36.8%
    Matchday 22 - 86/220 = 39%
    Matchday 23 - 92/220 = 41.8%
    Matchday 24 - 87/220 = 39.5%
    Matchday 25 - 86/220 = 39%
    Matchday 26 - 78/220 = 35.4%
    Matchday 27 - 75/220 = 34.1%
     
  19. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Poor week this week which I think you can put mainly down to injuries. For example Leicester started just one Englishman when usually at least four would start but they take a hit due to Justin, Maddison and Barnes all being out leaving just Vardy as the only English starter. Villa normally have seven starters but just down to four, plus a few other teams are down a few hence the decline this week.
     
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  20. ADM99

    ADM99 Member+

    Apr 28, 2019


    Kick-off at 7:00 so some pre-Champions League viewing.
     
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  21. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Dean Ashton wasn’t impressed with Greenwood’s performance the other night or his form generally this season! Think he’s a little bit harsh to be honest, don’t think he’s had the best of times with his personal life which can effect your performances.

     
  22. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    It's hard not to be disappointed with Greenwood's performance this season, especially after the promise he showed last season.

    I don't think there's call to panic at this point.
     
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  23. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Seems to have been ever since the Iceland trip and I wonder if all the negative press has had a big hit on his confidence or it could just be second season syndrome. Something just doesn’t seem quite right with him though at the moment.
     
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  24. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member+

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    I’d still take him either the U21s though. Great chance for him.
     
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  25. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    English eligible players starting in the Premier League, total per matchday: Season 2020/21

    Matchday 1 - 90/198 = 40.9% (completed )
    Matchday 2 - 79/220 = 35.9%
    Matchday 3 - 80/220 = 36.4%
    Matchday 4 - 80/220 = 36.4%
    Matchday 5 - 81/220 = 36.8%
    Matchday 6 - 82/220 = 37.3%
    Matchday 7 - 90/220 = 40.9%
    Matchday 8 - 86/220 = 39%
    Matchday 9 - 83/220 = 37.7%
    Matchday 10 - 85/220 = 38,6%
    Matchday 11 - 84/220 = 38.2% ( completed )
    Matchday 12 - 83/220 = 37.7%
    Matchday 13 - 88/220 = 40%
    Matchday 14 - 88/220 = 40%
    Matchday 15 - 92/220 = 41.8%
    Matchday 16 - 89/220 = 40.4% ( completed )
    Matchday 17 - 84/220 = 38.2% ( completed )
    Matchday 18 - 80/198 = 40.4% ( Aston Villa v Spurs to be added at a later date )
    Matchday 19 - 72/198 = 36.4% ( Aston Villa v Everton to be added at a later date )
    Matchday 20 - 92/220 = 41.8%
    Matchday 21 - 81/220 = 36.8%
    Matchday 22 - 86/220 = 39%
    Matchday 23 - 92/220 = 41.8%
    Matchday 24 - 87/220 = 39.5%
    Matchday 25 - 86/220 = 39%
    Matchday 26 - 78/220 = 35.4%
    Matchday 27 - 75/220 = 34.1%
    Matchday 28 - 79/220 = 35.9%
     

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