The paucity of English opportunity thread

Discussion in 'England' started by wellno, Aug 9, 2017.

  1. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Ellis Simms moves to Blackpool on loan from Everton.
     
  2. David Brooks

    David Brooks Member

    Jun 23, 2017
    Hey Marcho,

    The 92 English players that started in week 16 must be some kind of recent record. Any idea how far you have to go back to see that kind of number previously?

    Cheers
     
  3. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    To be honest, I wouldn’t know where to look for matchday stats for what you’re asking unless anyone else knows where to look? Unfortunately, I’ve only been keeping records since the start of last season and the record number for one matchday ( matchday 30 ) from season 19/20 was 89 out of 220, 40.4% so matchday 15 from this current season beats that record. If I was to guess, it’s probably the best for 5 years at least or maybe longer.
     
  4. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    English eligible players starting in the Premier League, total per matchday: Season 2020/21

    Matchday 1 - 90/198 = 40.9% (completed )
    Matchday 2 - 79/220 = 35.9%
    Matchday 3 - 80/220 = 36.4%
    Matchday 4 - 80/220 = 36.4%
    Matchday 5 - 81/220 = 36.8%
    Matchday 6 - 82/220 = 37.3%
    Matchday 7 - 90/220 = 40.9%
    Matchday 8 - 86/220 = 39%
    Matchday 9 - 83/220 = 37.7%
    Matchday 10 - 85/220 = 38,6%
    Matchday 11 - 71/198 = 35.9% ( Aston Villa v Newcastle to be added at a later date )
    Matchday 12 - 83/220 = 37.7%
    Matchday 13 - 88/220 = 40%
    Matchday 14 - 88/220 = 40%
    Matchday 15 - 92/220 = 41.8%
    Matchday 16 - 81/198 = 41 % ( Everton v Man City to be added at a later date )
    Matchday 17 - 71/198 = 35.8% ( Burnley v Fulham to be added at a later date )
    Matchday 18 - tbc
    Matchday 19 - 72/198 = 36.4% ( Aston Villa v Everton to be added at a later date )
     
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  5. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Can you believe that RLC is 25 today? I had such high hopes for him all those years ago but sadly injuries curtailed the potential he had but maybe he can eventually get back into England territory but I doubt it now. I think a decent/good Premier League player will be his ceiling now.
     
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  6. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Can u believe I'm 42 on Tuesday?
     
  7. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    English eligible players starting in the Premier League, total per matchday: Season 2020/21

    Matchday 1 - 90/198 = 40.9% (completed )
    Matchday 2 - 79/220 = 35.9%
    Matchday 3 - 80/220 = 36.4%
    Matchday 4 - 80/220 = 36.4%
    Matchday 5 - 81/220 = 36.8%
    Matchday 6 - 82/220 = 37.3%
    Matchday 7 - 90/220 = 40.9%
    Matchday 8 - 86/220 = 39%
    Matchday 9 - 83/220 = 37.7%
    Matchday 10 - 85/220 = 38,6%
    Matchday 11 - 84/220 = 38.2% ( completed )
    Matchday 12 - 83/220 = 37.7%
    Matchday 13 - 88/220 = 40%
    Matchday 14 - 88/220 = 40%
    Matchday 15 - 92/220 = 41.8%
    Matchday 16 - 81/198 = 41 % ( Everton v Man City to be added at a later date )
    Matchday 17 - 71/198 = 35.8% ( Burnley v Fulham to be added at a later date )
    Matchday 18 - 71/176 = 40.3% ( Leeds v Southampton & Aston Villa v Spurs to be added at a later date )
    Matchday 19 - 72/198 = 36.4% ( Aston Villa v Everton to be added at a later date )
     
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  8. wellno

    wellno Member+

    Jul 31, 2016
    Matt O'Riley has signed for MK Dons after 6 months as a free agent.
     
  9. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    Bizarre situation. Anyone know what's been going on? Is he still the player he looked like being, for that matter?
     
  10. wellno

    wellno Member+

    Jul 31, 2016
    There have been a few cases with free agents recently where I thought them not agreeing deals might be a COVID thing. Clubs in a difficult financial position won't be throwing big money at anyone so maybe agents and players are taking the gamble on waiting it out for more money.

    For O'Reilly specifically though there are some interesting quotes in the BBC article: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55787384

    Apparently he was training with MK Dons to keep his fitness up and enjoyed it so much he decided to hold out for a contract there.
     
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  11. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
     
  12. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    English eligible players starting in the Premier League, total per matchday: Season 2020/21

    Matchday 1 - 90/198 = 40.9% (completed )
    Matchday 2 - 79/220 = 35.9%
    Matchday 3 - 80/220 = 36.4%
    Matchday 4 - 80/220 = 36.4%
    Matchday 5 - 81/220 = 36.8%
    Matchday 6 - 82/220 = 37.3%
    Matchday 7 - 90/220 = 40.9%
    Matchday 8 - 86/220 = 39%
    Matchday 9 - 83/220 = 37.7%
    Matchday 10 - 85/220 = 38,6%
    Matchday 11 - 84/220 = 38.2% ( completed )
    Matchday 12 - 83/220 = 37.7%
    Matchday 13 - 88/220 = 40%
    Matchday 14 - 88/220 = 40%
    Matchday 15 - 92/220 = 41.8%
    Matchday 16 - 81/198 = 41 % ( Everton v Man City to be added at a later date )
    Matchday 17 - 71/198 = 35.8% ( Burnley v Fulham to be added at a later date )
    Matchday 18 - 71/176 = 40.3% ( Leeds v Southampton & Aston Villa v Spurs to be added at a later date )
    Matchday 19 - 72/198 = 36.4% ( Aston Villa v Everton to be added at a later date )
    Matchday 20 - 92/220 = 41.8%
     
  13. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    English eligible players starting in the Premier League, total per matchday: Season 2020/21

    Matchday 1 - 90/198 = 40.9% (completed )
    Matchday 2 - 79/220 = 35.9%
    Matchday 3 - 80/220 = 36.4%
    Matchday 4 - 80/220 = 36.4%
    Matchday 5 - 81/220 = 36.8%
    Matchday 6 - 82/220 = 37.3%
    Matchday 7 - 90/220 = 40.9%
    Matchday 8 - 86/220 = 39%
    Matchday 9 - 83/220 = 37.7%
    Matchday 10 - 85/220 = 38,6%
    Matchday 11 - 84/220 = 38.2% ( completed )
    Matchday 12 - 83/220 = 37.7%
    Matchday 13 - 88/220 = 40%
    Matchday 14 - 88/220 = 40%
    Matchday 15 - 92/220 = 41.8%
    Matchday 16 - 81/198 = 41 % ( Everton v Man City to be added at a later date )
    Matchday 17 - 71/198 = 35.8% ( Burnley v Fulham to be added at a later date )
    Matchday 18 - 71/176 = 40.3% ( Leeds v Southampton & Aston Villa v Spurs to be added at a later date )
    Matchday 19 - 72/198 = 36.4% ( Aston Villa v Everton to be added at a later date )
    Matchday 20 - 92/220 = 41.8%
    Matchday 21 - 81/220 = 36.8%
     
  14. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Bit of a drop off this week! Incidentally Spurs not starting any English players but three Welsh players :ninja:
     
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  15. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    England youth player loans -



     
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  16. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    Both good moves on the face of it, but is Mowbray really going to pick Branthwaite and Harwood-Bellis together? Fair play if he does, but I wouldn't be surprised if they end up fighting each other for minutes.
     
  17. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    English eligible players starting in the Premier League, total per matchday: Season 2020/21

    Matchday 1 - 90/198 = 40.9% (completed )
    Matchday 2 - 79/220 = 35.9%
    Matchday 3 - 80/220 = 36.4%
    Matchday 4 - 80/220 = 36.4%
    Matchday 5 - 81/220 = 36.8%
    Matchday 6 - 82/220 = 37.3%
    Matchday 7 - 90/220 = 40.9%
    Matchday 8 - 86/220 = 39%
    Matchday 9 - 83/220 = 37.7%
    Matchday 10 - 85/220 = 38,6%
    Matchday 11 - 84/220 = 38.2% ( completed )
    Matchday 12 - 83/220 = 37.7%
    Matchday 13 - 88/220 = 40%
    Matchday 14 - 88/220 = 40%
    Matchday 15 - 92/220 = 41.8%
    Matchday 16 - 81/198 = 41 % ( Everton v Man City to be added at a later date )
    Matchday 17 - 71/198 = 35.8% ( Burnley v Fulham to be added at a later date )
    Matchday 18 - 71/176 = 40.3% ( Leeds v Southampton & Aston Villa v Spurs to be added at a later date )
    Matchday 19 - 72/198 = 36.4% ( Aston Villa v Everton to be added at a later date )
    Matchday 20 - 92/220 = 41.8%
    Matchday 21 - 81/220 = 36.8%
    Matchday 22 - 86/220 = 39%
     
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  18. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Lenihan is the preferred choice but hes gash. I would hope Harwood-Bellis gets a few games
     
  19. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    One for the next U21 campaign. Taylor Richards at Doncaster -

    3 goals and 3 assists in January. 1 goal and an assist today.

     
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  20. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    English eligible players starting in the Premier League, total per matchday: Season 2020/21

    Matchday 1 - 90/198 = 40.9% (completed )
    Matchday 2 - 79/220 = 35.9%
    Matchday 3 - 80/220 = 36.4%
    Matchday 4 - 80/220 = 36.4%
    Matchday 5 - 81/220 = 36.8%
    Matchday 6 - 82/220 = 37.3%
    Matchday 7 - 90/220 = 40.9%
    Matchday 8 - 86/220 = 39%
    Matchday 9 - 83/220 = 37.7%
    Matchday 10 - 85/220 = 38,6%
    Matchday 11 - 84/220 = 38.2% ( completed )
    Matchday 12 - 83/220 = 37.7%
    Matchday 13 - 88/220 = 40%
    Matchday 14 - 88/220 = 40%
    Matchday 15 - 92/220 = 41.8%
    Matchday 16 - 81/198 = 41 % ( Everton v Man City to be added at a later date )
    Matchday 17 - 71/198 = 35.8% ( Burnley v Fulham to be added at a later date )
    Matchday 18 - 71/176 = 40.3% ( Leeds v Southampton & Aston Villa v Spurs to be added at a later date )
    Matchday 19 - 72/198 = 36.4% ( Aston Villa v Everton to be added at a later date )
    Matchday 20 - 92/220 = 41.8%
    Matchday 21 - 81/220 = 36.8%
    Matchday 22 - 86/220 = 39%
    Matchday 23 - 92/220 = 41.8%
     
  21. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Another one of these funny lists for anyone interested :eek:

     
  22. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    English eligible players starting in the Premier League, total per matchday: Season 2020/21

    Matchday 1 - 90/198 = 40.9% (completed )
    Matchday 2 - 79/220 = 35.9%
    Matchday 3 - 80/220 = 36.4%
    Matchday 4 - 80/220 = 36.4%
    Matchday 5 - 81/220 = 36.8%
    Matchday 6 - 82/220 = 37.3%
    Matchday 7 - 90/220 = 40.9%
    Matchday 8 - 86/220 = 39%
    Matchday 9 - 83/220 = 37.7%
    Matchday 10 - 85/220 = 38,6%
    Matchday 11 - 84/220 = 38.2% ( completed )
    Matchday 12 - 83/220 = 37.7%
    Matchday 13 - 88/220 = 40%
    Matchday 14 - 88/220 = 40%
    Matchday 15 - 92/220 = 41.8%
    Matchday 16 - 81/198 = 41 % ( Everton v Man City to be added at a later date )
    Matchday 17 - 71/198 = 35.8% ( Burnley v Fulham to be added at a later date )
    Matchday 18 - 71/176 = 40.3% ( Leeds v Southampton & Aston Villa v Spurs to be added at a later date )
    Matchday 19 - 72/198 = 36.4% ( Aston Villa v Everton to be added at a later date )
    Matchday 20 - 92/220 = 41.8%
    Matchday 21 - 81/220 = 36.8%
    Matchday 22 - 86/220 = 39%
    Matchday 23 - 92/220 = 41.8%
    Matchday 24 - 87/220 = 39.5%
     
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  23. wellno

    wellno Member+

    Jul 31, 2016


    Dyche's Burnley's always been a difficult place for loanees/people whose faces don't fit.
     
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  24. Manchester21

    Manchester21 Member

    Manchester City
    England
    Jun 17, 2017
    Seems like there has been quite an increase in English players getting a chance this season
     
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  25. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    English eligible players starting in the Premier League, total per matchday: Season 2020/21

    Matchday 1 - 90/198 = 40.9% (completed )
    Matchday 2 - 79/220 = 35.9%
    Matchday 3 - 80/220 = 36.4%
    Matchday 4 - 80/220 = 36.4%
    Matchday 5 - 81/220 = 36.8%
    Matchday 6 - 82/220 = 37.3%
    Matchday 7 - 90/220 = 40.9%
    Matchday 8 - 86/220 = 39%
    Matchday 9 - 83/220 = 37.7%
    Matchday 10 - 85/220 = 38,6%
    Matchday 11 - 84/220 = 38.2% ( completed )
    Matchday 12 - 83/220 = 37.7%
    Matchday 13 - 88/220 = 40%
    Matchday 14 - 88/220 = 40%
    Matchday 15 - 92/220 = 41.8%
    Matchday 16 - 89/220 = 40.4% ( completed )
    Matchday 17 - 84/220 = 38.2% ( completed )
    Matchday 18 - 71/176 = 40.3% ( Leeds v Southampton & Aston Villa v Spurs to be added at a later date )
    Matchday 19 - 72/198 = 36.4% ( Aston Villa v Everton to be added at a later date )
    Matchday 20 - 92/220 = 41.8%
    Matchday 21 - 81/220 = 36.8%
    Matchday 22 - 86/220 = 39%
    Matchday 23 - 92/220 = 41.8%
    Matchday 24 - 87/220 = 39.5%
     

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