The paucity of English opportunity thread

Discussion in 'England' started by wellno, Aug 9, 2017.

  1. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Do you recall Ashley Smith-Brown ... he was in Man City’s under 18’s team at 15 and was soon captain... even played in England’s under 19 alongside some great players

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  2. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC


    I can of feel for Sancho a bit, I mean he’s ranked probably about right but he was clear in 2019 and robbed of top spot to be honest and been performing consistently for the last 2 1/2 seasons compared to others that are currently in a purple patch.
     
  3. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    Still, 3 England players in the top 10, no other nation with more than one.

    They won't win but Saka, Bellingham, and Greenwood will all be troubling next years top 10 you'd think as well.
     
  4. PoliteSquats

    PoliteSquats Member

    Apr 13, 2015
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    I have vague memories of thinking he was overrated at the time.
     
  5. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Wiki says he played under 18’s at just 15 and led them to the title 2013/14...
     
  6. wellno

    wellno Member+

    Jul 31, 2016
    Curtis Jones should be there or thereabouts next year.
     
  7. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    He may get some serious game time now with all Liverpool’s injuries
     
  8. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Could probably add Musiala to the list too, looked a bit nervous today but will probably get plenty of playing time with Bayern over the next year.
     
  9. wellno

    wellno Member+

    Jul 31, 2016
    Harvey Elliott has hit the ground running on his Championship loan:


    Has every right to look at his peers like Musiala and Bellingham and think he deserves the same kind of opportunities at Liverpool.
     
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  10. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    English eligible players starting in the Premier League, total per matchday: Season 2020/21

    Matchday 1 - 68/176 = 38.6% ( Burnley v Manchester Utd & Manchester City v Aston Villa to be added at a later date )

    Matchday 2 - 79/220 = 35.9%
    Matchday 3 - 80/220 = 36.4%
    Matchday 4 - 80/220 = 36.4%
    Matchday 5 - 81/220 = 36.8%
    Matchday 6 - 82/220 = 37.3%
    Matchday 7 - 90/220 = 40.9%
    Matchday 8 - 86/220 = 39%
    Matchday 9 - 83/220 = 37.7%
     
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  11. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
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  12. Placid Casual

    Placid Casual Member+

    Apr 2, 2004
    Bentley's Roof
    That's an interesting idea.

    Wonder who the other keepers are
     
  13. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    They’ve been doing it for a while. They don’t always advertise the keepers so it’s down to clubs or players if they want to make it public.

    Savin has a few PL clubs watching him I think.
     
  14. IGSpur

    IGSpur Member

    Apr 14, 2015
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Tbf he should've known the drill. PL pretty much as standard give less chances than other leagues. Jones is only getting his run now due to injuries
     
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  15. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    I haven’t heard much of this kid but I gather he’s highly rated seeing many Clubs are apparently interested in him? Gather he must be an England Youth International also?

     
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  16. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
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    Stones starts against Olympiacos.
     
  17. dbs235

    dbs235 Member

    Mar 30, 2013
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Jose brings on Alfie Whiteman, Dane Scarlett and Harvey White in the Europa.
     
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  18. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    English eligible players starting in the Premier League, total per matchday: Season 2020/21

    Matchday 1 - 68/176 = 38.6% ( Burnley v Manchester Utd & Manchester City v Aston Villa to be added at a later date )

    Matchday 2 - 79/220 = 35.9%
    Matchday 3 - 80/220 = 36.4%
    Matchday 4 - 80/220 = 36.4%
    Matchday 5 - 81/220 = 36.8%
    Matchday 6 - 82/220 = 37.3%
    Matchday 7 - 90/220 = 40.9%
    Matchday 8 - 86/220 = 39%
    Matchday 9 - 83/220 = 37.7%
    Matchday 10 - 85/220 = 38,6%
     
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  19. BarryfromEastenders

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    Jul 6, 2008
     
  20. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008


     
  21. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    Six per year? There might as well be no restrictions at all.
     
  22. ADM99

    ADM99 Member+

    Apr 28, 2019
    EFL academies are going to get raided now, even more than they currently are.
     
  23. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    Musiala starts against Atletico.
     
  24. wellno

    wellno Member+

    Jul 31, 2016
    Not seen the details of the points system yet but this bit makes me think the PL clubs have 'won' the negotiations. The FA get to look like they've done something, the clubs get restrictions that don't actually restrict them.
     
  25. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    #2575 Marcho Gamgee, Dec 1, 2020
    Last edited: Dec 1, 2020
    How will this effect our kids moving to the EU once they reach 18?

    Also will presumably mean gone are the days when Spanish players will classes as homegrown.
     

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