The other blue and white team doesn't seem to have a problem with it...

Discussion in 'Sporting Kansas City' started by Wizardscharter, Apr 16, 2003.

  1. Wizardscharter

    Wizardscharter New Member

    Jul 25, 2001
    Blue Springs, MO
    In Chicago:

    Royals 8 White Sox 5
    KC 12-1 and 4.5 games up on 2nd place Chicago.

    Maybe some of this can carry over to the men across the street. Maybe they should Rit dye their uniforms to a slightly darker shade of blue before that game. Wizards 0-7 in Chicago, 5:20 aggregate. Ouch.

    SWEET!
     
  2. jamesf24

    jamesf24 New Member

    Apr 16, 2000
    Brighton, MI
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    yawn.....

    bb is boring....

    and the Royals will finish below .500 this year
     
  3. KCFutbol

    KCFutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 14, 2001
    Overland Park, KS
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Re: The other blue and white team doesn't seem to have a problem with it...

    You're certainly entitled to your opinion but I don't know how anyone could watch last nights game and classify it as boring.

    Go Blue Teams!
     
  4. Wizardscharter

    Wizardscharter New Member

    Jul 25, 2001
    Blue Springs, MO
    One from the half-empty crew...

    Every sport can be boring. If you saw all 64 World Cup games, I guarantee you saw at least 10 boring ones.
     
  5. Spoon

    Spoon Member

    Feb 25, 1999
    Overland Park Ks
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well they are winning the games they need to win that is for sure. I am excited about them but they have yet to play anybody good. But hell if they play 500 ball the rest of the way they will be in a penant race.
     
  6. jamesf24

    jamesf24 New Member

    Apr 16, 2000
    Brighton, MI
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Re: Re: The other blue and white team doesn't seem to have a problem with it...

    I don't understand how anyone could watch 9 innings of baseball to begin with....
     
  7. ojsgillt

    ojsgillt Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Lee's Summit MO
    The White Sox last year went .500 and won the division and the playoff spot that came with it.

    I am going to see them on Friday, got free tickets. Basabe ball to me is like Indoor Soccer, I will watch it, I just won't pay to.
     
  8. BenC1357

    BenC1357 Member

    Feb 23, 2001
    KC
    Baseball is fun to watch and follow when the team is playing well. I dont care if the Royals win the division, I just would like to know that when I watch them I don't already know they are going to lose. Knowing the team can win any game makes it exciting again.
     
  9. jdouble

    jdouble New Member

    Jan 22, 2002
    Kansas City, MO
    i dont care for baseball really at all.

    I get all the Royals i need from the highlights shows. Its cool that they are winning, i always support the home teams, and i am generally interested in them continuing to win, but i couldnt sit through an entire game, unless i am at the game yelling "you're all washed up" randomly at players.

    but so many people say soccer is boring - its all just what gets you going, i just cant get into baseball.
     
  10. Roush

    Roush Member

    Dec 19, 2001
    Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    All you have to remember about baseball is:

    It's a bunch of juiced-up steroid freaks playing a game originally designed for women.
     
  11. PrekiIsGOD

    PrekiIsGOD Member

    Jan 9, 2002
    Kansas City
    Does anyone else appreciate the irony here?
     
  12. jamesf24

    jamesf24 New Member

    Apr 16, 2000
    Brighton, MI
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, It's a nigtmare come true, we actually have people defending baseball on big soccer.

    Someone wake me up......

    James
     
  13. BenC1357

    BenC1357 Member

    Feb 23, 2001
    KC
    Its not ironic. Like many people, I grew up loving baseball. Yes, the strikes turned me off to the game. But just as much, the fact that the Royals have sucked for a decade turned me off. BigSoccer is not just for soccer anymore. Look around,there are forums for politics, games and other sports.

    It may be a surprise, but all soccer fans arent just soccer fans. Just look at wizardcharter (Dave), hes an all around sports fan, but he chooses to talk soccer with us here. Theres nothing wrong with soccer fans liking other sports at all. Jut because you dont like them, doesnt mean others cant like the sport and defend that sport.
     
  14. PrekiIsGOD

    PrekiIsGOD Member

    Jan 9, 2002
    Kansas City
    Really, baseball is the true beautiful game. I've only come into soccer the last 10 years or so, but baseball is in my blood. Both sports have subtle nuances that only people who have played or watch very closely can ever appreciate. Personally, my enjoyment of soccer, I think, is complemented by baseball.

    Anyone who says baseball is boring is simply being ignorant. As someone once said "Don't criticize what you can't understand."
     
  15. jdouble

    jdouble New Member

    Jan 22, 2002
    Kansas City, MO
    ignorance

    anyone who says someone else's opinion as to what is boring is ignorant simply for having that opinion is in fact ignorant.

    The vast majority of sports reporters in the US seem to think soccer is boring, they aren't just ignorant, they might be, or they might just not like it.

    I played baseball, i can even get into a game under the right circumstances, that i think the game is generally boring doesn't mean my opinion is the result of my ignorance, it simply means that i have an opinion just like everyone else.

    If i asked you who the best hardcore band of all time is and you either a) rattle off some band that in fact does/did not play hardcore or b) name a band that is different than the one i had in mind, you will display either ignorance or opinion.

    People who dis any sport for being boring when they have never given it a chance are ignorant as to whether or not it is in fact boring. People who say a sport is boring after giving it a sufficient chance to determine whether or not they think it is boring are not ignorant, they simply disagree with you.
     
  16. PrekiIsGOD

    PrekiIsGOD Member

    Jan 9, 2002
    Kansas City
    Re: ignorance

    My impression was the people on this board who were bashing baseball were those who had never given it a chance.

    I'll just leave it a that. This is a soccer board after all.
     
  17. ojsgillt

    ojsgillt Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Lee's Summit MO
    baseball to me is boring. If there weren't so many stoppages (16 minimum) it would seem more exciting to me. Baseball just isn't my thing, and alot of it is because of the lack of flow. Sure you may have a good inning, but once that inning is done you have to rebuild your momentum, it may be easier to do if you just had a good inning, but it is still a significant drop. I guess if I had to sum up baseball in one word it wouldn't be boring, it would be "choppy".
     
  18. jamesf24

    jamesf24 New Member

    Apr 16, 2000
    Brighton, MI
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Re: ignorance

    From age 5 on, starting in Lee's Summit (1975), I played baseball every summer, soccer every spring & fall, and basketball as well.

    I've been to 100's of Royals games in my life, as well as traveled to St.Louis, and "the new Ball Park" in Arlington, TX for a Rangers v Royals matchup.

    That was then, in 1994, World Cup USA, 1995, 1st taste of the UEFA champions league and EPL, in 1996, year 1 MLS.... and so the story goes.

    I still enjoy a good baseball/softball game as a participant, I can appreciate the sport.

    I cannot however, appreciate the "athletes" (using the term loosely) of MLB. Sure, there are great players in MLB. But the game is just, well, for lack of a better word, boring on television. I also would not pay to see a pro baseball game again, however, I might attend with my children if given free tickets.

    It is ok to like other sports, as Ben was saying, but the "good ole boys" of baseball, are very much against the MLS & soccer and do not want it to succeed. Because they know that baseball is dying, they've lost two straight generations, and soccer will/has finally made it.

    James
     
  19. Mad_Bishop

    Mad_Bishop Member

    Oct 11, 2000
    Columbia, MO
    Re: ignorance

    If I said Minor Threat, I'd be right, neither ignorant or opinionated. If you had 7 Seconds in your mind, i'd give you half credit

    :)
     
  20. ojsgillt

    ojsgillt Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Lee's Summit MO
    just got back from the Royals game to night. 3-4 in the 11th inning. Single shot homer from rookie named Hardy, or Herny or something like that. About 39,000 and a loud crowd. Entertaining game, 11 innings in under 3 hours makes it much more bearable. Derek said on our road trip last year that at heart KC is a baseball town. He may be right. Though I think it has to do more with a fair weather town.

    I enjoyed every penny I spent on the game.
     
  21. PrekiIsGOD

    PrekiIsGOD Member

    Jan 9, 2002
    Kansas City
    Re: Re: Re: ignorance

    Each time I swear I'm done with this thread...

    If you really think that the "good ole boys" are worried about the MLS...Come on! The powers that be in baseball probably don't even know the MLS EXISTS. Are you getting into conspiracy theories here, because Oswald was a patsy for the Cubans, the moon landing was filmed on a soundstage in Florida and Roy Williams had a deal to go to UNC in Feburary. I mean really, put down the crack pipe. Trust me, baseball doesn't give a damn about soccer or the MLS.

    For every problem baseball has (and there are many) the MLS has at least 2.

    What the Wizards set an attendance record last week with about 22,000. Tonight the Royals had 39,000 (against the Tigers!!!) That's a Wizard fan's wet dream. Too bad that will never happen.

    I truly enjoy soccer and hope it catches on in the US. It's gonna be tough. I think the MLS has to be considered a huge success, just for surviving this long but they still have a long way to go. If you want to crack the top sports in the US, focus on hockey first. I think soccer is just about there in the pecking order.
     
  22. Wizardscharter

    Wizardscharter New Member

    Jul 25, 2001
    Blue Springs, MO
    Me too. Up out of my seat many times last night.

    Here's the thing: KC isn't a "baseball town" any more than it's a "football town" on fall weekends. KC is a "fair weather"/event town. And like all towns, the more history that exists the bigger the event seems to be. The length of history goes directly to the magnitude of the peaks and valleys that are celebrated everywhere by everyone in sports.

    Tonight at the K, many of the 39k who remember what those left field flags are all about were there and with the many that just came for the event, together they voiced their extremely conditional pent-up love. I'm still smiling.

    BTW, that game winning homer was hit by a ['Husker[color].


    Baseball isn't soccer, or vice versa. If you don't recognize the flow of either sport, I'm sorry; but that's your problem and you are missing something. What is similar is that both sports are predicated on a high degree of failure. Anything with failure at it's core will allow mentally stronger people to get ahead easier. You don't have to like it, you can always watch basketball.

    BLUE AND WHITE KC TEAMS RULE THE EARTH (for now)!
    GO BLUE!
     
  23. Wizardscharter

    Wizardscharter New Member

    Jul 25, 2001
    Blue Springs, MO
    Screwed that up...
     
  24. Wizardscharter

    Wizardscharter New Member

    Jul 25, 2001
    Blue Springs, MO
    Take 3...

    GO BLUE!




    sheesh! mmm, p i l - l o w...
    :)
     
  25. BenC1357

    BenC1357 Member

    Feb 23, 2001
    KC
    Yes, KC is a fair weather town. The Chiefs have proven it a little, although many are still holding on to the great '90s. But attendance has dropped (dont let the "sell outs" fool you) at Arrowhead as well.

    I do like baseball, and I'm glad for the Royals, because I can still remember jumping around the living room as George Brett and Brett Saberhagen (sp?) jumped up and down after game 7 in 1985. I was five years old and I still remember that hispanic pitcher going nuts in the 5th and Whitey getting tossed in the 5th. All the while the whole city was going nuts, because the game was already in the bag.

    All that behind me, I'm a soccer fan through and through now. I always was, I just needed somewhere to practice the trade. I look at the Royals success now as a problem for my true love. If the Royals keep this up, the Wizards attendance will go down. People only have so much expendable income, and as Dave pointed out, history plays a part. Many people that dont love soccer like we do, remember '85 and want it again. They'll go there thinking "they'll quit winning one of these days", but they're really hoping they win it all. I want them to be mildly successful and fall off, and the Wizards to keep having crowds like the opener.
     

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