The Other All-Stars (Garber/Olsen picks)

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by ImaPuppy, Jul 15, 2012.

  1. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    Olsen selected: Kyle Beckerman, Ozzie Alonso, Eddie Johnson, Chris Pontius, and Dan Kennedy

    Garber selected: Ramiro Corrales and Carlos Valdes

    Agree? Disagree? Indifferent? Discuss.
     
  2. TheLostUniversity

    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Feb 4, 2007
    Greater Boston
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not bad, but I'm not overwhelmed. In my opinion Alonso has been having an off year, and I would not have picked him. I'd argue Beckerman has not been as consistently good as the last few years. But then who to pick who is qualitatively superior to them? Morales?
    The point may be not who is "superior" to them, but who would make a more complete team out of the All-Stars. There is a dearth of creative players in the middle, and this team could have used somebody who can surprise the opposition. Freddy Adu, or Nguyen, might have been kinda useful here.
    But then, why bother to make a team complete when it's just "All-Stars"? I wouldn't be surprised if Seattle gives Chelsea a much stronger game than the MLS bunch will be able to muster.
     
  3. RapidStorm

    RapidStorm Member+

    Jan 30, 2005
    Denver, CO
    I don't get how Eddie Johnson makes it, over Cooper, Saborio, Koevermans, Bruin or Sene.

    Otherwise, I don't have any qualms. I get the two D-mids that were picked, because who of Donovan, Beckham, DeRo and Zusi was going to play defense?
     
  4. Ironkick14

    Ironkick14 Member+

    Sep 29, 2011
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Obviously this was never going to happen, but I'd prefer that instead of an allstar game that MLS would put a roster of the most promising young players up against Chelsea to:
    A) expose the future of the league to Europe
    B) show the young players top level soccer to give them something to strive for
    C) have a bunch of MLS players who would actually be interested in something other than not getting hurt play in the game.

    I'd be more inclined to watch this than the MLS popularity contest winners get killed by the European competition and not even care for the most part.
     
  5. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They are obviously favoring current form. The last month, EJ has been fantastic.

    Koevermans season may be over after a bad knee injury so he would not have been considered.
     
  6. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I like the nod to the long-term veteran (Corrales) and the hometown guy (Valdes) - the right kind of Commissioner's Picks IMO.
     
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  7. Neuwerld

    Neuwerld Member+

    Oct 15, 2007
    California
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nice gesture including Corrales. Only 96er left, and this is his first MLS All-Star appearance. Good thing his team is doing well and he's picked up 5 assists, because that makes it justifiable from an on-field standpoint as well.
     
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  8. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    Interesting idea to get the young players involved. (perhaps an MLS U23 team v some UEFA club, or club reserves would be good. Although, that's not very "marketable," and the GA team travels most off-seasons for that kind of experience.)

    And, as for (possibly or likely) seeing the MLS All-Stars "getting killed" by the European opponent, prior to the last two years, the MLS All-Stars had a quite decent record and did beat Chelsea (not that these game results matter).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mls_all_star_game

    And realistically, I think the fans, Olsen and Garber all made acceptable to very good picks in 2012.
     
  9. Ironkick14

    Ironkick14 Member+

    Sep 29, 2011
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    True, but you could run them as a doubleheader and have both, against either two different clubs or a first team and a reserve team.
     
  10. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    Yes, they certainly could do that.

    And other leagues like the NBA, MLB and NHL all have a "young-stars" type game/competition as part of their "All-Star Break." So I wouldn't put it past MLS also trying to set up some in-season "young stars" type competition in some future season(s).

    Although, MLS has to deal with a lot of other summer clutter and these ASG festivities and events (while marketable and good exposure for the league in some ways) do come with additional congestion and player over-use concerns. And realistically, in 2012, the USA U-23 team could/should have qualified for the Olympics, so a "young MLS All-star team" could have been very thin (or not all that top notch) if the US team were busy in Great Britain when MLS's All-Star break is scheduled.

    Overall, it (a "young players' ASG") is probably no worse an idea than the current full ASG in itself -- but I do think the young players probably get more benefit and experience out of the week-long trip that the GenAdidas team takes overseas during the winter than they hypothetically would as the opening act game to the ASG in the summer.
     
  11. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    Instead of a youngster game that nobody watches around ASG time, hasn't MLS essentially put together a rarely seen youngster team to play in Europe during the off-season?
     
  12. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
  13. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
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