The On-going Never-ending Brexit Story Part Four

How d'yer think WE feel

 

@Yoshou, I think I told you wrong about when the next UK general election would be. It's no later than 5 years from the last, held in December 2019, which is when Boris Johnson took over from Theresa May and there was a mandate for pushing through Brexit, because people are dumb.

For some reason, I had 2018 in my head, so I told you it would be next year. Nope! I think it has to happen, if a general election isn't forced sooner, around December 2024, maybe a month later even. So, a possible 2 years of Truss.

 

This is the beauty of the parliamentary system though. She won't last 2 years in my opinion.

The internals of her own party will over throw her in my opinion. Either literally by removal. Or by proxy with her essentially becoming a lame duck PM because she can't get a damn thing passed through parliament.

It's no coincidence she backed down on 45p. I think there was so much back channeling happening that her people came to realize that mini budget wasn't passing.

 

Historically it was always said the worst thing a government could do was to leave it till to the last minute to hold a GE because it meant they wouldn't be in control of the timing and the situation at that point might be disastrous for them, politically.

It was introduced because the LibDems and tories wanted to have a good run at being in power after 2010 and didn't want to be pushed into an early GE because of 'events', (or 'reality' as it's sometimes known).

But that rather had the mockers put on it after the 2015 tory win and we had the 2017 GE, (which Theresa May unwisely thought was a great idea), and then the 2019 one in which Boris Johnson promised 'levelling up' and 'no going back to austerity'. That is the mandate in existence atm.

 

AFAIK a lot of tory MPs haven't turned up to the tory conference because they're 'on manoeuvres', (as the phrase had it), and want to be able to distance themselves from what they think will be a disastrous Truss 'experiment'.

Don't forget, Truss only got 14% of the available MP's votes on the first round and came in THIRD in every subsequent round until the last one.

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...p-election-full-results-liz-truss-rishi-sunak

Truss is only there because she was the ANYONE BUT RISHI candidate.

They have zero loyalty to her. Well, they're tories... they don't have any loyalty anyway, do they but y'now what I mean.

 

Chaos among the Tories. Just slinging mud at each other now.

 

This is the position atm with tory MP's...

Truss’s benefits plans and why many Tories are sticking up for claimants

The push to stealthily cut benefits by dropping the pledge for them to rise in line with inflation might once have been catnip to Conservative MPs and party members.

But the Tories have changed fundamentally since the days of George Osborne’s “strivers versus skivers” comments and the pernicious influence that rhetoric had on the national debate, leading to programmes such as Benefits Street.

Now multiple cabinet ministers have told the Guardian privately they are determined to halt the prospect of linking benefits to wage growth rather than inflation, a significant real terms cut for the incomes of the poorest in society.​

Whether the tories have 'changed fundamentally' is extremely questionable.

The thing to bear in mind is that tory MP's aren't concerned about the poor or unemployed suffering. The only ones they want to protect are THEMSELVES.

THAT'S the only job THEY want to protect.

 

£18bn of cuts to pay for corporation tax reduction. That's only going to increase the switchers.

The "Red Wall" looks like it's being rebuilt even higher.

Labour lead by 38% in the Red Wall, up from 15% two weeks ago.

Red Wall Voting Intention (3-4 Oct.):

Labour 61% (+12)
Conservative 23% (-11)
Reform UK 3% (-4)
Liberal Democrat 7% (+2)
Green 4% (–)
Other 2% (+1)

Changes +/- 19-20 Sept.https://t.co/Ih6ctJwLWK pic.twitter.com/ngN35t6rS7

— Redfield & Wilton Strategies (@RedfieldWilton) October 4, 2022

 

We're at the point now of "nuclear war may save Truss".

🎙 Your perspective on where the PM's authority is? - #Newsnight's Political Editor @nicholaswatt

🎥 "If Putin explodes a tactical nuclear weapon in Ukraine before Christmas, the entire domestic political conversation will change" - @ConHome Editor @PaulGoodmanCH

📺 BBC2 22:30 pic.twitter.com/YDEuhciYj8

— BBC Newsnight (@BBCNewsnight) October 4, 2022

 

Chaos.

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All the work Cameron did to detoxify the brand has been ruined by 3 years of Johnson lies and 3 weeks of Truss' ideological zeal.

 

You know you're in trouble when "woman" is one of the most positive things people have to say about you.

NEW by @JLPartnersPolls, fieldwork 1st-3rd October.

The British public were asked to give their view of Liz Truss in a word. These are their most common answers. 👇 pic.twitter.com/jNqHCIdtdY

— James Johnson (@jamesjohnson252) October 4, 2022

 

Braverman bravely going to the places that will make Priti Patel look like a bleeding heart liberal.

Suella Braverman on benefits.

" I want to cut welfare spending. We have far too many people in this country who are fit to work, who are able to work... & they choose to top up their salaries with tax credits & the benefit street culture is a feature of modern Britain" pic.twitter.com/LfJ22o7Y89

— Haggis_UK 🇬🇧 🇪🇺 (@Haggis_UK) October 4, 2022

Suella Braverman says it would be “my dream” to see a flight deporting migrants to Rwanda by Christmas.

But she warns it will take much longer because of the lengthy process of legal challenges. #ChoppersPolitics

— Matt Dathan (@matt_dathan) October 4, 2022

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Suella Braverman asked about our national institutions, like the BBC, being supposedly dominated by the left, says there has been a "march of socialism" throughout public life.

Says there is an "urgent need" to get more right wingers into national positions. pic.twitter.com/ud0WsIfpOo

— Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) October 4, 2022

 

I'm always impressed how closely aligned the American right and British right are.

 

They're on the same payroll!

 

The ex-editor of The Sun, (intriguingly), has some interesting thoughts on Liz from marketing and the subject of this thread, particularly his thoughts at about 4:30...



... as Yelland says, 'This all goes back to brexit and we're left with idiots or people who were prepared to compromise their own beliefs for the benefit of their careers'.

 

I assume Rupert Murdoch is writing the checks.

 

Labour are anywhere from 15-35% ahead in the polls.
There is simply no need for this from the Shadow Chancellor. It's truly appalling to hear this about people who are mostly genuine asylum seekers from anyone not on the right, and especially from someone in the Labour party.

'This is a problem made under their watch'

Shadow Chancellor Rachel Reeves MP says that illegal immigration has been on the increase whilst Conservatives have been in government and calls the lack of deportations "12 years of Tory failure"

👉 https://t.co/xZtjki2Yiq

📺 Sky 501 pic.twitter.com/O6urjKZlqU

— Sky News (@SkyNews) October 4, 2022

 

Truss walks out for her speech to Moving On Up by M-People, which contains the line: "Move right out of here, baby, go on pack your bags".

 

The lack of self awareness is staggering

Truss: “I will not allow the anti-growth coalition to hold us back. Labour, Lib Dems, the SNP…vested interests dressed up as think tanks…some of the people we had in the hall earlier.”

— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) October 5, 2022