The On-going Never-ending Brexit Story Part Four

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  1. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
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    Chelsea FC
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    England
    Well, that's no fun.
     
  2. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    I remember that show. The Man From G.U.N.K.L.E. WITH Napoleon Solo and Illya Kuryakin. :geek:
     
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  3. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
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  4. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Has anyone remembered that the Tory leadership contest is ongoing? Doesn't really seem that important to most people.
     
  5. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
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    Chelsea FC
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    England
    The Eye's take on the riots is accurate, as one would expect...

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  6. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
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    Chelsea FC
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    England
    Rafael Behr says as much in the grainiad but, as he points out, the leader of the opposition always has a role in how well run the country is and in how the tories develop as a party...

    The next Conservative leader will face a vital decision. Let’s call it the ‘rivers of blood’ test
    Decades after Ted Heath sacked Enoch Powell, the Tories must restore the line that stops immigration policy descending into racial hatred

    Of course, the other thing is that, as te phrase has it, labour support is a mile wide but only an inch deep.

    We gained an enormous number of seats because in the same way that the anti-tory vote is normally split between labour, the Libdems and greens, the tory vote was split between them and reform. If we don't do a decent job of managing the country, (particularly in getting some growth going), and the tories get their act together with a credible leader, we could find ourselves out of office quicker than one would have thought.
     
  7. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Yes, Labour's lead is relatively soft for such a large majority, but I really don't see the Tories recovering quickly under any of the candidates. They didn't lose because they were seen as too soft or too hard on anything, all post-election polling showed they lost because they were seen as incompetent. That takes time to rebuild from, especially as it will be difficult for the Libs to screw up much as the third party, and their performance hurt the Tories as much as Labour's did.
     
  8. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
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    Chelsea FC
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    England
    Can I just apologise for misspelling 'grauniad' there. Sorry about that :)
     
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  9. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
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    Chelsea FC
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    England
    I think it depends what happens with reform as well. If their voters get it through their thick heads, (a big ask.. I grant you), that they can't win in the majority of the constituencies they might recover more quickly. If not then they're out of power for a generation.
     
  10. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

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    I'm still watching, y'know.
     
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  11. Colm

    Colm Member

    Aug 17, 2004
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    Still trying to chase reform voters unicorns.

    In the real world however, from a tory mp too.

     
  12. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
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    Chelsea FC
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    England
    The thing is there are still some relatively decent tory MP's and, by that, I mean not only not certifiably mad but also decent people. I thought that having caught a couple of YT's over the past few days, more or less randonmy,...





    I mean, they're still tories, obviously but... they seem to be normal people. Just people with whom I disagree.
     
  13. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
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    Chelsea FC
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    England
    They're relating this to brexit but I can't help thinking it's just more to do with the basic approach of modern British business and finance... not brexit as such.



    Of course, that's nothing to do with whether it was a great idea or not, (not, as it happens).

    This guy says he knows something about finance.



    Maybe he's right? ;)
     
  14. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
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    England
    I'm lucky to have managed to catch a very educational YT involving Douglas Murray who is, (and I want to be very clear about this), NOT in ANY way fascisty and who explains to us all that there isn't a far-right in the UK and the recent riots were just a few trouble-makers. Also it turns out the people marching against them were just doing it for money...



    Who knew :)

    Speaking as a working class bloke I have to say, thank god we have Douglas Murray as our mouthpiece.
     
  15. roby

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    Feb 27, 2005
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    When you got problems in your neighborhood you can always call Doug's cousin Bill. :sneaky:

     
  16. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
     
  17. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Some people are getting very worried. Dan Wootton and David Vance have posted the exact same.

     
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  18. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
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    Chelsea FC
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    Personally, their anguish makes me very, very sad...

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  19. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    It's truly heartbreaking.
     
  20. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    The must be the least shocking news ever in the UK.

     
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  21. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
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    Chelsea FC
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    England
    Nah, I'm sorry... I'm not having that. There's no WAY that's true..
     
  22. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Makes you proud to be British.

     
  23. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    What did they expect of a nation that wanted to named it's most famous vessel, 'Boaty McBoatface' but were denied by 'teh man'.
     
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  24. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Didn't Pulp do a song about this sort of thing?

     
  25. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
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    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Yeah, not sure that's how it works love :D
     

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