The On-going Never-ending Brexit Story Part Four

I remain totally unconvinced that Labour will manage the NHS well.
Wes Streeting today talking about how the NHS needs to achieve "growth".
It's a public health service, not a private industry. It should be measured on how successfully it treats people, not on how it is run as a business.

 

Well, they could use some “growth” to add more care providers across the board.

 

Is it surprising that this would be the Conservatives' reaction? The media has been pushing the narrative that Labour didn't win this election, rather the Conservatives lost it because they failed to shore up their right flank from Reform.

It's only logical that the Conservatives will look at that narrative and come to the conclusion that they need to go farther to the right to re-capture the right wing voter and eliminate the split.

 

I will cheer them on as they continue electoral irrelevance whilst barreling down that path.

 

While this may be true, the number of votes that Reform got would seem to indicate that their voters have moved to the right to some degree. Obviously after 14 years of mismanagement there is a number of voters that voted for Reform because of incompetence, but, again, the narrative is that a party to the Conservatives right "stole" their voters.

 

Why would they listen to the media and not look at the data themselves?
Polling shows that under half of Reform voters would have voted Tory if Reform weren't standing - it's a large amount, but not the full picture.
The British media has an agenda, and that of a number of the right wing press is shift the Tories right.

 

And Badenoch says of Braverman "[she] appears to be having a 'very public' nervous breakdown"

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Kemi Badenoch used first meeting of shadow cabinet to criticise Rishi Sunak's election campaign amid concerns colleagues are failing to grasp enormity of defeat

* Badenoch said that Sunak's decision to call an early election without informing his Cabinet was a mistake…

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Voting by age during the election.

 

When she uses the word “liberal” here, how does she mean it? Does she mean it like here in America, or is it the British meaning?

 

She means anyone to the left of Mussolini.

 

IMO, this is a bad sign, one we’re seeing more and more around the world.

If people vote based on economic issues, you can compromise on that stuff. You want to spend 10 million, I want to spend 14 million, how about 12?

The age breakdowns here indicates identity politics. You can’t split the immigration baby. You can’t split the transgender baby. These issues are all or nothing.

 

is the tory party had any brain they would concentrate on winning back lib dem and Labour voters, you know they have to get seats back of the lib dems and Labour, not try and ape reform who will always be considered more authentic than you.

 

While it's funny watching the Tory party implode, we really need them to get their act together.
A lack of a coherent centre-right offering is only going to fuel Farage.
If Labour can start to get things done that the left behind start to feel the benefit from then that will help, but it won't sort it on it's own.

 

And that's the problem. Too many Braverman and Frost rantings taking the lead rather than the saner ones coming to the fore. The media will just fuel the nutters.

 

Or maybe the lib dems can become the moderate centre right party.

 

I don't really see that in the short term. I doubt they drift as left as they did under Kennedy, but I can't imagine they look back on the immediate post coalition years fondly. They've likely found their niche where they are for now.

 

I'd disagree with you on the age breakdowns indicating identity politics. There is also a heavy dose of economics reflected in those age breakdowns. For 18-30ish year olds, they've spent their entire adult lives under Conservative rule and they've been absolutely crapped on economically during that time. They had working in Europe almost completely cut off, they've had the economic pain caused by a shoddily carried out Brexit pretty much land directly upon them, cost of living has gone up, etc, etc. That plays a heavy factor in why young voters in the UK are against Conservatives.

 

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And young people tend to care about climate change as well.