The Official Welcome Raphael "The Fabulous" Varane Thread

Discussion in 'Real Madrid' started by Vector-SS, Jun 27, 2011.

  1. saadomar

    saadomar Member+

    Real Madrid
    Mar 21, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    No longer playing on a world class level. There's something wrong with him. Gabriel Jesus and Raheem Sterling destroyed his confidence and he never recovered from it

    Posted just today.
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  2. benny_madridista

    Real Madrid
    Nov 30, 2020
    He won the world cup and he's only been declining since.
     
  3. Drouchk

    Drouchk Member+

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Aug 9, 2018
    We have to cash in on this guy before teams figure out he's finishd.
     
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  4. Saint Iker

    Saint Iker Ronaldo's Right Foot

    Dec 5, 2009
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Alaba looking like a really good option now.
     
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  5. Umar

    Umar Member+

    Sep 13, 2005
    One step ahead
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Palestine
    Yep he needs a change of scenery. He has all the talent and technical ability but he has no instincts for defending. It’s embarrassing the way he just froze for Shaktars goal and then looked around to see whose fault it was.
     
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  6. AppleBob86

    AppleBob86 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Jan 11, 2018
    Go. Enough.

    Knowing this club he’ll be rewarded with a new contract
     
  7. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    He will be gone.

    He was outpacing Messi as a teenage CB. It is actually sad to see him regressing to a point where we want him gone at the age of 27.
     
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  8. rhexis07

    rhexis07 Member+

    Jan 24, 2007
    Singapore
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Everytime Varane touches / chases a ball, I have my heart in my throat. No idea when he'll gift the opponent a goal.. Then again, seems like every other match.
     
  9. robertocarlos3

    robertocarlos3 Member+

    Jan 9, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    too bad he speaks french
     
  10. dooda

    dooda Member+

    Jun 8, 2005
    Kuwait
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    LOL blaming him for fouling Junior is ridiculous; that was a brain dead pass by Nacho which Varane could do nothing about. As for the goal, that was all on Mendy, you either control that ball or boot it out, to half ass pass it to no one and expect your team to bail you out doesn't absolve you of its blame.
     
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  11. saadomar

    saadomar Member+

    Real Madrid
    Mar 21, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    #1286 saadomar, Dec 2, 2020
    Last edited: Dec 2, 2020
    You're acting like this is an isolated incident. He was at fault along with Mendy for that first goal. Horrible lapse in communication and that was the end. I feel sorry for Thibaut to have these clowns Varane and Mendy in front of him. If you watch the replays, both of them don't cover themselves in glory. Varane isn't getting off the hook for being in the thick of all these failures. Everyone is taking notice.

    Mendy is so bad. He's worse when he goes into the opposing box too. He's lucky that Marcelo is worse. It also highlights what a massive difference a leader like Ramos makes in the defense. His presence papers over these guys playing junior varsity level football. Like constant mistakes, constant breakdown in comms, constant lack of player tracking. You just cannot excuse these.

    Ramos is the linchpin of this defense and team. I sincerely hope he recovers soon and comes back to rescue us. He rescued us last season after covid break. He rescued us in multiple CL finals. For all his faults he's arguably the greatest captain this team had in my lifetime (sorry Iker and Raul) and his legend only grows when you see what happens without him.
     
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  12. Varnagel

    Varnagel Member+

    Nothing
    Sweden
    Jun 4, 2017
    Real Madrid couldn't get rid a scrub like Mariano who isn't interested to leave.

    Varane has contract until 30th June 2022. There's no signs he wants to leave.

    Also, I doubt Real Madrid wants to find a relacement either.

    Especially when they're saving money for a potenial Mbappe signing.
     
  13. saadomar

    saadomar Member+

    Real Madrid
    Mar 21, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    It's all fun and games until we go trophyless. RM demands silverware every year. Or has the bar been lowered suddenly?

    I can overlook this year being a fluke, but if we don't make changes, we're gonna suffer more. We need Mbappe, but he'll only be one signing. We need multiple signing and a fire sale to get back to playing like we are possessed to win trophies.

    We have players who have mentally checked out. Zizou convinced players like Hackimi, Kovacic, Ceballos, Llorente and Reguilon to leave. He can convince these players to leave too. It's his job as a manager to set those expectations and advise them on their future with this club.
     
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  14. Deep Pal

    Deep Pal Member+

    Jun 19, 2013
    India,Kolkata
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    India
    We need a CB, a LB, RB, one midfielder, one RW and a striker. That's 6 players, while moving away Isco, Asensio, Marcelo, Mariano, Jovic, Modric ( possibly). Forget about recouping money, no one will take them at current wages.

    Can't see that happening in one transfer window.
     
  15. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    He froze in both moments which is worse than a mistake: it shows a consistent pattern.

    Nacho makes the pass and you can see how he long he takes to process it that the opponent is already there.

    Same with the goal: He freezes in place, and once he makes a move, it's already too late.

    Ramos usually moves by instinct, which is why he sometimes makes mistakes by overcommitting but also saves a lot of situations by being there with the fire extinguisher before it turns into a mess.
     
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  16. Akramzizou

    Akramzizou Member+

    Feb 13, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I wouldn't lose sleep if we sell him, but this is not the right market to sell him in. Varane easily gets u 70M+ precorona, though maybe PSG would take him as part of the Mbappe deal.
     
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  17. Ahmadi8

    Ahmadi8 Member+

    Apr 14, 2005
    Bahrain
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Bahrain
    The deals that have gone through post Corona are just as ridiculous as before.
     
  18. dooda

    dooda Member+

    Jun 8, 2005
    Kuwait
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    He could have made a move on the first goal, got beat and left Junior one one on Tibo - he panicked and played it safe. I'm not saying Varane has been good - but our defensive structure has regressed to the point where we can't function with an average CB and the CBs which can thrive in our system not named Ramos probably don't exist.

    This is why I feel bad for our backline every time Marcelo starts because it means they're going to be put in situations trying to make a play and look bad because of Marcelo's inability to defend.

    There was this one play LV bombed down the right only for Modric to ignore him and play it straight to a shaktar player. he ended up counter attacked down LVs flank and Varane had to sprint, cover for him and pray that they don't expose the gaping hole he's left behind with a quick pass.
     
  19. natenate101

    natenate101 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 16, 2006
    California, US
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ^ yeah, Varane has been quite poor on several occasions but there is more to our defensive issues this season. He needs to step the hell up, but honestly for me he isn’t someone we need to get rid of ASAP. We do need a strong alternative to he and Ramos and quick though. If Militao isn’t that guy, loan him out and bring someone else in.
     
  20. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Never seen a player regress like this seemingly without a reason.

    Some players get a major injury that impacts their careers ei Falcao, Derrick Rose.

    Some players get mistreated by coaches and benched for so long they lose their form and will

    But this dude has been healthy and has been playing consistently. Just doesn't make sense other that he won too much too soon and just doesn't love and breathe football. Still though, shouldn't be this bad.
     
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  21. hector_br

    hector_br Member+

    Feb 13, 2007
    Problem is that Ramos completes Varane more than the guy's own wife.

    Varane actually looks decent with Ramos by his side, with minor brainfarts here and there.

    Without Ramos, he's looking completely lost.
     
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  22. undertow

    undertow Member

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Nov 22, 2020
    Sure Varane hasn't been good but look at all the goals we concede. Same goals for years now. We do not have built in systematic automatisms when we are being counterattacked. I feel sorry for Varane actually.

    It's tactics. We play high line against Shaktar and get destroyed on counterattacks. We have no response to it. Every week the same.

    It's tactics
     
  23. Drouchk

    Drouchk Member+

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Aug 9, 2018
    Militao’s looked better alongside Ramos than Varane has since the City game, let’s give him a try shall we?
     
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  24. hector_br

    hector_br Member+

    Feb 13, 2007
    Absolutely, if we (ZZ) insist on the same players and systems, more concerned about 'recovering' them rather than winning games, we are going to fail miserably.
     
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  25. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
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