The official "Some site says this guy is a Yank" detective work thread

He's back with Lugano's U21 squad. Not much other info out there that I can find.

His name translates to "Scared Man" so he's got that going for him.

 

TM lists Derick Palacios as a dual US-Honduras citizen, playing for CD Marathon.

Date of birth/Age: Nov 2, 2005 (18)

From a profile:

The Palacios surname will be heard again in the ranks of Marathón . Thirteen years have passed since Jerry and Milton played their last match with the 'verdolagas' shirt; however, Derick Palacios , one of the nephews of this privileged generation of football brothers, will continue with the dynasty.

The native of the Garifuna community of Sambo Creeck in La Ceiba is a lanky forward who is characterized by his strength, height and the determination he brings to the game. His dreams have no limits and he wants to stand out in the National League in the near future.

Derick Palacios has scored around 80 goals so far in his career between minor leagues and special reserves. Right now he is one of the prospects of the Honduras U-20 team that aims to qualify for the next World Cup in this category.

https://www.elheraldo.hn/deportes/d...nacional-marathon-honduras-OH16444468#image-1

Made his 1st team debut:

Derick Palacios, de 18 años, debutó con el CD Marathón en el primer partido de la temporada en la victoria ante UPNFM Lobos 🦖 pic.twitter.com/ghPvGjgSw9

— HondurasFútbolTV 📺 (@HNFutbolTV) February 6, 2024

TM profile: https://www.transfermarkt.com/derick-palacios/profil/spieler/1226847

 

John Turcios has popped up at Motagua in Honduras.

• Date of birth/Age: Jun 1, 2001 (23)
• Place of birth: Miami, Florida
• Citizenship: United States
• Position: Goalkeeper

https://www.transfermarkt.com/john-turcios/profil/spieler/1178441

He did play for Miami United in NPSL, but I can't find much more on him.

I found some announcements of him joining the club, but no citizenship confirmation:

John Turcios de 22 años procedente el Miami FC de la USL Championship (segunda división de Estados Unidos)

El Domingo estará en la banca ... https://t.co/XCSm3TlI9I pic.twitter.com/zWU5lz0sjK

— MOTAGUA Y NADA MAS (@JimmyRCruz) October 21, 2023

✍️🦅 | Nuestras Reservas se siguen reforzando 👏

👊🏻 ¡BIENVENIDO AL NIDO DEL ÁGUILA! John Turcios 🤝

🏃‍♂️ Posición: Arquero
📆 Edad: 20 Años pic.twitter.com/6Hr9I1MNv6

— Fútbol Club Motagua (@MOTAGUAcom) August 19, 2022

 

TM lists him as being born in the DC area. Transferred today.

 

Hi Dave, Dominic from Transfermarkt here. Tonny is now playing in the Czech Republic. This has been confirmed by our data scout, who has access to the Czech transfer system.
He has no performance data with us, as he did not play in any league listed in our database between 2018 and 2024.

 

There was some rumbling about Jack Rudoni of Coventry City having a US passport, but it turned out to be a dead end as his father didn't live long enough in the US to pass along citizenship. More of the elusive "his grandparent is American" myth.

https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/s...ws/coventry-jack-rudoni-usa-olympics-29516379

 

Giorgio De Marzi (07) 🇺🇸🇮🇹 signs a pro contract with Roma. De Marzi helped Roma’s U17s win the scudetto this past season.

De Marzi also made the bench for the first team in a preseason friendly earlier this summer.#USMNT pic.twitter.com/2zk4FOt1QW

— USMNT burner (@burnerusmnt) August 17, 2024

well he has signed as a pro now with Roma

 

• GK Mick Tiel at FC Utrecht - The aforementioned Mick Tiel started this cup final for FC Utrecht U16 vs Ajax in June (you can hear the announcer say Mick Tiel)
  
  
• Albin Angelo Williams - Europe-based ODP player who was on a 2009 ODP team this year. Posted that he visited some MLS academies on his IG. Might be at FC Dallas now. Looks like he was previously in Germany per a FuPa profile
  
  
• Guillermo Hunt Saura at FC Cartagena - GK who has Spain/USA flags in his IG bio. Earlier this year he played in the regional selections competition that they do in Spain (he was with the Murcia U16 selection). LaPreferente profile
  
  
• '07 Sebastian Sime at River Plate - Puerto Rican player listed with the River Plate U20s by Transfermarkt. Not sure if eligible for the US
  
  
• '09? Aidan Gabbidon at Sligo Rovers - Seems to be an '09 defender who has made multiple senior team squads. He's been with the Ireland U15s and his brother is Kyle Gabbidon who has been mentioned in the thread. Transfermarkt profile
  
  
• Pablo Cucci at Atletico Madrid - A player previously mentioned in various places online. He was there last season, appearing in at least 17 official games with the Juvenil C squad. LaPreferente profile
  
  
• '05 Roots-Ken Iverson Jean Baptiste at Atlas - Was on the Haiti U20 provisional list which had him at Atlas. Seems to be a recruiting profile for him here. From that, he was born in Haiti and moved to the US when he was young. The spelling from that profile is Rootsken Jean Baptiste
  
  
• '08 Alejandro Perez at Sporting Gijon - Has USA and Panama flags and also tags Sporting Gijon in his bio on IG
  
  
• '06 Mac Vargas at Alcorcon - IG bio has USA/Dominican Republic/Croatia flags and tags Alcorcon. Seems to be from Georgia. Recruiting profile
  
  
• Burnley academy player who follows USYNT on IG
  
  
• FC Ingolstadt academy player whose IG bio has German/Puerto Rico/USA flags

 

Notes on a few names from the thread:

Jalen Blesa:
This article/interview says he was born to American parents in Barcelona - “He was born in Barcelona, Spain, while his parents are from the United States of America.”

Alexander Woiski:
According to this article, he does have a US passport and received invites from Argentina, the US, and Italy all on the same day:

(Google Translation)
“Not for nothing declined the chance to play for Italy and the United States, federations that - taking advantage of the fact that the striker has both passports - sought to tempt him although unsuccessfully: although he received the pair of calls literally hours after that of Argentina”

The article would seem to have received info from the family. Looks like his dad is a Mallorca-based soccer agent who went to the University of Florida.

Asher Artz:
This article says that he was called into a German U16 camp in May. He also participated in the German regional selections competition in May with the Niederrhein U16 selection (more info in the same article)

 

Several prospects from this Twitter thread:

Elijah Johnson-Warren 🇺🇸

Club: Stuttgarter Kickers U17
Age: 2008 (16)
Position: Centre-Forward

Previous Clubs: Stuttgarter Kickers Youth, USA Barca Residency Academy, PAC Northwest

Place of birth: Federal Way, Washington 🇺🇸

— USMNT Report 🇺🇸🇹🇷 (@USMNTReport) August 19, 2024

Elijah Johnson-Warren
Club: Stuttgarter Kickers U17
Age: 2008 (16)
Position: Centre-Forward
Previous Clubs: Stuttgarter Kickers Youth, USA Barca Residency Academy, PAC Northwest
Place of birth: Federal Way, Washington

Bennett Wilp
Club: Union Berlin U17
Age: 2008 (16)
Position: Defender
Previous Clubs: Union Berlin Youth, Hertha Zehlendorf Youth

Aron Polatschek
Club: Eintracht Braunschweig U17
Age: 2008 (16)
Position: Defender
Previous Clubs: Magdeburg Youth, Eichsfeld Youth

Maximilian Guth
Club: SpVgg Unterhaching U17
Age: 2008 (16)
Position: Centre-Forward
Previous Clubs: Unterhaching Youth, Heimstetten Youth

 

Another thread from USMNTReport on Twitter, this time the German U19 league.

🚨 Americans playing in the German U19 Bundesliga this season 🚨

🧵🧵🧵

Let me know if I missed any.

(All info used from Transfermarkt) https://t.co/4N8xWg9ROs pic.twitter.com/jKDh6vmKjN

— USMNT Report 🇺🇸🇹🇷 (@USMNTReport) August 21, 2024

All info draw from TM.

Not surprisingly, there is more info on these players on BS, so several were already mentioned in DW thread (marked DW).

Tyrese Zeigler
Club: Kaiserslautern U19
Age: 2006 (17)
Position: Right-Back
Previous Clubs: Mainz 05 U17, Mainz 05 Youth, RW Frankfurt Youth, Köningstein Youth, Offenbach Youth, Oberusel Youth
Place of birth: Frankfurt am Main

Max Hathaway (DW)
Club: Werder Bremen U19
Age: 2006 (18)
Position: Right-Back
Previous Clubs: Bremen U17, Bremen Youth, Dynamo Dresden Youth, Borea Dresden Youth
(22 U19 appearances last season)

Leander Hoppenheit (DW)
Club: Preußen Münster U19
Age: 2006 (18)
Position: Goalkeeper
Previous Clubs: Münster U17, Münster Youth

Elijah Scott (DW)
(2 caps with Germany U18s)
Club: VfB Stuttgart U19
Age: 2006 (18)
Position: Centre-Back
Previous Clubs: Stuttgart U17, Großaspach U17
(Has played with Stuttgart II in 3. Liga)

 

The data might naturally be tricky for any potential dual nats born in Mexico because the Liga MX site will simply list them as Mexicano, while obviously there's a tell with any of the players with a US birthplace.

Christopher Torres Félix is listed as born in Mexico, so that's one of those aforementioned cases it looks like:
https://ligamx.net/cancha/jugador/117453/christopher-torres-felix

Luis Enrique Lee Salcedo listed as born in California:
https://ligamx.net/cancha/jugador/158067/luis-enrique-lee-salcedo

José Ángel Cortez Navarrete listed as born in Nevada:
https://ligamx.net/cancha/jugador/158540/jose-angel-cortez-navarrete

 

In terms of Google site searches of the Liga MX site, it seems like some profiles may or may not always come up for whatever reason.

Another method for site searching this data could be Google site searches of BeSoccer which likely is sourcing their info from the Liga MX site, though seems to be a bit more to Google's liking in this case. And then can check back with the Liga MX site for confirmation.

Example: site:besoccer.com "2006" "Estados Unidos de América"

Which searches for birth year & place of birth. Whether that returns absolutely all the profiles, I'm not sure, but it may be something to try in comparison to Liga MX site searches.

In addition, if someone did want to go through the official rosters themselves and go about it that way, it seems like that's also possible on the Liga MX website.

For instance this is the U23 table, and clicking on the team links brings up player profiles for the players registered with the team:
https://sub23.ligamx.net/cancha/tablas/tablaGeneralClasificacion/sp/ERROR

Like Puebla U23:
https://sub23.ligamx.net/cancha/club/12907/puebla-fc

Then opening up all those profiles in new tabs and going through them is a way to go about it, and it appears possible for U15 through first team, if someone were to be interested in something like that. Of course, that would be a project.

 

• '08 GK Ian O'rourke at Saprissa - Recently with Costa Rica U17s. Further information section of Transfermarkt says he has an American father. Sometimes referred to as Ian Orouke
  
  
• '08 RB Georgios Efkarpidis at Athens Kallithea - Transfermarkt says he's Greek/American
  
  
• '05 Jamal Ely Rousseau at Elche - Transfermarkt says he's Haitian/American. He was on the Haiti U20 provisional list earlier in the year
  
  
• '06 Roushoan Taylor in Costa Rica - Transfermarkt says he's Costa Rican/American and recently started a cup game for Limón Black Star
  
  
• Bernardo Araujo at Hartlepool United - His IG shows prior ODP involvement. Might be an '07

 

The head coach at Tufts confirmed that it's the same guy.

 

Zeigler is both Italianish and Amercianish? Why not just say Italian and American?

 

Funny that the guy born in Germany with a German last name *isn't* listed as German.

 

Not much info on him:

Enbiya Bolur

Enbiya Bolur ('07), 17 year-old Turkish-American attacking midfielder, has joined Turkish giants Fenerbahçe!

Enbiya will play with Fenerbahçe's U19s this season. In fact, he's already played in three matches already, starting in all of them.

(1/2) pic.twitter.com/ejfrAktva8

— USMNT Report 🇺🇸🇹🇷 (@USMNTReport) August 29, 2024

TM says he was born in NJ: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/enbiya-bolur/profil/spieler/1304025