The official "Some site says this guy is a Yank" detective work thread

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Dave Marino-Nachison, May 23, 2013.

  1. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    I noticed some sites saying a former NCAA player named Mauro Bravo, now apparently in Greece, is American. That's probably wrong and I think he is "only" Spanish.
     
  2. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
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  3. jlsm

    jlsm Member

    Watford FC
    United States
    Jan 27, 2021
     
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  4. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
  5. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not sure where TM got the info, but they report Alex Bruce is a dual Yank/Englishman.

    https://www.transfermarkt.us/alex-bruce/profil/spieler/561040

    He just signed in Vietnam:



    He played from at least 2016 to 2022 in the US (looks like a couple of years were with a youth club), but I can't find anything from the clubs that say he is American. The most I can find is a reference to him being "Houstonian/English" but not much more. Could be he came over with his parents when he was young (the old UK-Houston oil pipeline). He lists his hometown as Newcastle:

    https://www.unionomaha.com/news/2022/03/22/union-omaha-signs-four-ahead-of-2022-campaign/

    He could have married an American, but no info.

    It doesn't help that there's another Alex Bruce in the soccer world: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Bruce_(footballer,_born_1984)
     
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  6. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Yeah, dunno. Found an interesting feature about him that you'd think would've mentioned an American parent or other connection and didn't. T'Markt isn't the worst offender in terms of misidentifying guys but it does happen.

    https://englishplayersabroad.wordpr...who-didnt-need-college-to-turn-pro-in-the-us/
     
  7. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    It looks like you can now use Google to scroll the TFF site. This search produces fewer results than I expected...

    "Lisans Bilgileri" USA site:https://www.tff.org/

    ... so I guess I'll need to poke around a bit more there. Open to suggestions!
     
  8. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    The summary of this (German, paywalled) article seems to indicate that an American named Duran is on trial with SV Germania Ilmenau:

    Ex-Oberliga-Spieler Lukas Mosert soll die Offensive beim Fußball-Landesklässler Germania Ilmenau stärken. Derweil ist der US-Amerikaner Duran zur Probe.​

    https://www.thueringer-allgemeine.d...-ilmenau-mit-transfer-hammer-id237415359.html

    I don't really know who this might be. Certainly, in years past, people with this name have managed to find fame and success in their chosen endeavors.

     
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  9. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
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  10. jlsm

    jlsm Member

    Watford FC
    United States
    Jan 27, 2021
    I now have confirmation from Luke's team that he was born in Massachusetts! You may go ahead and make the thread if you'd like.
     
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  11. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    You did the hard part. All yours!
     
  12. joseph_beq

    joseph_beq Member

    Nov 21, 2015
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  13. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
  14. jlsm

    jlsm Member

    Watford FC
    United States
    Jan 27, 2021
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  15. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    T'Markt says a player named Abdoul Abonsso at an Austrian lower-division club is American. He might be, but it might also be that he or someone with that name played with an American club and the database folks just made the jump. I've also seen pages referencing a player with this name at various other clubs around Europe.

    http://www.tsvmcdonalds.at/navimiddle/teams/1-km/

    https://premier.upsl.com/players/abdoul-abonsso-plantation-supreme-fc-premier/

    https://www.transfermarkt.us/abdoul-abonsso/profil/spieler/1078231
     
  16. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    He recently signed with Las Vegas in the USL:

    https://www.lasvegaslightsfc.com/news/2023/01/25/2023-roster-announcement/

    Appears to be Instagram-American:

    https://www.instagram.com/alemitrano/?hl=en
     
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  17. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  18. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was looking at the rosters in TM for the Mexican 1st & 2nd tiers and saw a couple of Yanks that don't have threads here and don't have a lot of info out there:

    Name in home country: Luis Ángel Gutiérrez Grimm
    Date of birth: Oct 17, 2001
    Place of birth: Mexico City [​IMG]
    Age:21
    Citizenship:[​IMG] Mexico [​IMG] United States
    Position: Attack - Left Winger
    Current club: Atlético de San Luis

    Name in home country: Manuel Govani López González
    Date of birth: Oct 26, 2000
    Place of birth:, California [​IMG]
    Age:22
    Citizenship:[​IMG] United States [​IMG] Mexico
    Position: Defender - Centre-Back
    Current club: Club Atlético Morelia
     
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  19. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    https://subinternacional.ligamx.net/cancha/jugador/157561

    That backs up TM, at least.
     
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  20. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  21. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    That's weird. I just saw the full page -- I've had issues with that site where sometimes the pages load in different browsers and not in others. Usually it doesn't work in Chrome but this time it did for some reason.
     
  22. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep, it loads fine in Firefox now.

    #17 in the list of reasons why I seldom even try to use the Liga MX website.

    Thanks again.
     
  23. Beckerinho

    Beckerinho New Member

    1. FC Kaiserslautern
    United States
    Feb 18, 2019
    Kaiserslautern, Germany
    Hi, Dominic from Transfermarkt here. Alex Bruce has the English and the US American citizenship. He has confirmed this himself.
     
  24. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Well I mean this is gonna be WAY more efficient if someone from T'Markt is here! Welcome!
     
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  25. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    LOL. T'Mark't page for him says "Eerden" though the HTML in the URL of the page itself says "Yaden."

    https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/shawn-van-yaden/leistungsdaten/spieler/910036

    And yeah, the club site's URL for him is "Eerden" but the translate is "Yearden."

    https://www.yokohamafc.com/player/2023_32_vaneerden_shawn/

    That IG page for him seems to be down for me -- can you still see it?
     

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