The official "Some site says this guy is a Yank" detective work thread

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Dave Marino-Nachison, May 23, 2013.

  1. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
  2. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    This is a super-inefficient way of looking at this, but this page is the full list of players with American nationality in FBRef. Unfortunately for our purposes it includes both men and women and players listed with clubs in past years. But at least it's easy to scan! (Hopefully I'll find a better way to refine/search this site.)

    https://fbref.com/en/country/players/USA/United-States-Football-Players
     
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  3. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Not that we ever really rolled with this, but a well-placed source informs me that, as suspected, he's not American.
     
  4. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Abu Kamara

    I'll add this one here. Only a TM reference to US citizenship (which is complicated by a TM listing for a Liberian player of the same name -- and we know of occasional confusion between the 2 flags):

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    His Norwich profile says nada:

    https://www.canaries.co.uk/academy/U18-Team/midfielder/abu-kamara/
     
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  5. NoHammiesAltidore

    United States
    Jun 28, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  6. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    I've tried on several occasions to try to figure out why this is (the first time I saw it, I guessed it was a Tomkinson-related error) and haven't been able to figure anything out, to my frustration.
     
  7. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
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  8. HScoach13

    HScoach13 Member

    Nov 30, 2016
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Santiago Munoz....not sure if this guy has a thread so I will place this here.
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  9. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    He's not a great fit for this thread -- we know he's a Yank, and we know where he is club-wise -- but there are definitely several places he is being discussed. (If you're interested in discussing multi-national YNT players generally, check the Youth National Teams forum!)

    https://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/santiago-muñoz-at-santos-laguna.2085994/
     
  10. HScoach13

    HScoach13 Member

    Nov 30, 2016
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Shouldnt he be in yanks abroad? He has already played for the first team of Club Santos. Surely because he is a dual nat should not keep him from it. Soto is still being wooed by Chile.
     
  11. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He does have a thread:

    https://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/santiago-muñoz-at-santos-laguna.2085994/#post-36986850

    If you tried to find him by "Munoz," note that the BS search function has to have the correct accent marks so "Munoz" won't yield a "Muñoz."

    I've requested that he be moved to YA, but some people seem to have me on ignore (*cough* @bungadiri *cough* @TheFalseNine *cough*).
     
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  12. HScoach13

    HScoach13 Member

    Nov 30, 2016
    Club:
    Atlanta
  13. bungadiri

    bungadiri Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 25, 2002
    Acnestia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've got a bet going with some of the other mods on who can rack up the most alerts, so I always delay until I get one or two mentions.
     
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  14. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
  15. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
  16. EXALIFTIN

    EXALIFTIN Member+

    Nov 23, 2010
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Noticed this on twitter, and it seems to be some random guy saying it but thought I'd post this here any ways.....

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    Jamal Musiala US eligible?
     
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  17. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Of course, an American grandmother doesn't guarantee US citizenship.
     
  18. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    The (quite reasonable) question raised by @BostonRed aside, after a bit of searching, it doesn't seem that this information was sitting anywhere easily findable. I found what appear to be both parents' names and neither one led me easily to a story/link/etc. that would support a U.S. connection. (Usual disclaimer: My inability to find something quickly doesn't mean it's not out there.)
     
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  19. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
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  20. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    This still has some of the same issues, but it now shows (what it says are) the players who are currently active in boldface. Still the most efficient way to search this database that I have found, however.

    https://fbref.com/en/country/players/USA/United-States-Football-Players
     
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  21. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My skepticism was well founded. Turns out Jonathan Tomkinson confirmed he isn't eligible:

     
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  22. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's a Yank:

    https://www.ncsasports.org/mens-soc...ore-mattei--liceo-scientifico-/alex-hathaway2

    I've grown up playing soccer in Italy but am a dual US/Italian citizen. I am motivated to go to college in the United States because I believe that studying in the USA will provide me with a competitive advantage in the job market, half of my family is in the USA and I think that my abilities on the soccer field will contribute positively to a competitive college team.

    My current team is the Italian 4th division team ("Serie D") US Fiorenzuola 1922 where I play as an outside midfielder, either left or right as I'm comfortable playing with both feet.
     
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  23. NoHammiesAltidore

    United States
    Jun 28, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Transfermarkt says Shayan Khademi playing for Machine Sazi Tabriz in the Iranian 1st division is Iranian-American. It looks like he spent two years playing college ball at Lafayette before heading overseas.
     
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  24. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
  25. NoHammiesAltidore

    United States
    Jun 28, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do we know if Valentin Sabella who was at Charlotte Independence is a citizen or not? Transfermarkt says he is and that he just signed in the Mexican second division.
     

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