The Official John J. Fisher ownership thread

Discussion in 'San Jose Earthquakes' started by xbhaskarx, Mar 30, 2019.

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John Fisher

Poll closed Oct 30, 2019.
  1. should spend more money

    20 vote(s)
    62.5%
  2. should fire Fox and/or Fioranelli

    10 vote(s)
    31.3%
  3. should bring in additional owners

    10 vote(s)
    31.3%
  4. should sell the team

    11 vote(s)
    34.4%
  5. is not the problem

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. is doing a great job!

    1 vote(s)
    3.1%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. naopon

    naopon Member+

    Jan 2, 2007
    California
    Club:
    Kawasaki Frontale
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Longtime Niners exec Paraag Marathe is Leeds' chairman as well, so it's a very active cross-sport investment. I imagine they've tossed the idea of taking a stake in the Quakes around but I don't know what kind of synergies exist (both between the 49ers and Quakes, and between the Quakes + LUFC + Rangers). FWIW Red Bull also owns part of Leeds.
     
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  2. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There are several potential owners mentioned who I'd be happy to have. I just want some progress on the sale. The Earthquakes are an undervalued asset in a very affluent market. It ought to be an attractive idea. How much work and money would it take to increase the value of the team by $200M or $300M? I mean, as long as there aren't any more bomb bunkers under the stadium ...

    GO Quakesfans!!
     
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  3. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  4. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    BC Place was not Vancouver’s home in 2011, contrary to the Guardian article. The team played in a makeshift stadium at the site of the former Empire Stadium.

    Apparently the City owns the Empire site, so this could be readily solved with local political will. Build a permanent soccer stadium there.
     
  5. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No duh.
     
  6. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That place looked pretty nice for a temporary soccer stadium...
     
  7. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Yes, I have been to Quakes games in both the 2011 temporary facility and BC Place (in 2016), and I much preferred the temporary stadium.
     
  8. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They played their final two matches at BC Place once the renovations were complete.

    They have a memorandum of understanding for a stadium on the site of the defunct horse track next to Empire. They need to sort out the financing and the political approvals, as well as get a lease at BC Place to bridge the years before it is ready.
     
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  9. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    So does anyone know when will we hear anything regarding the sale of the Quakes?
     
  10. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, why would we know in advance when we're going to hear anything?
     
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  11. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Just thought I’d ask if that’s ok with you.
     
  12. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hearing from my very credible sources the date October 22...
     
  13. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  14. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  15. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
    Staff Member

    Earthquakes and Bay FC
    United States
    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Joe could probably afford both?
     
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  16. blacktide

    blacktide Member

    Feb 25, 1999
    New MLS team valuations are out. Quakes one of only three teams to see their value decrease (-3%). Wonder if there are any buyers at $585 million?

    MLS Team Values Ranking List
     
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  17. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The only non-Canadian team... also interesting that San Diego is almost $200 million higher despite not having their own soccer stadium...

    Rank Team 2026 Valuation 1-Year Value Change


    1+1 Inter Miami CF $1.45 billion +22%
    2-1 Los Angeles FC $1.4 billion +9%
    3 LA Galaxy $1.17 billion +5%
    4 Atlanta United $1.14 billion +6%
    5 New York City FC $1.12 billion +12%
    6+1 Seattle Sounders FC $915 million +11%
    7-1 Austin FC $910 million +5%
    8 Columbus Crew $800 million +10%
    9 FC Cincinnati $790 million +9%
    10 San Diego FC $765 million N/A
    11+2 Charlotte FC $755 million +7%
    12-1 D.C. United $750 million +4%
    13-2 Portland Timbers $745 million +3%
    14 Philadelphia Union $740 million +6%
    15-6 Toronto FC $730 million +1%
    16+6 Chicago Fire FC $690 million +20%
    17 Sporting Kansas City $685 million +5%
    18-3 St. Louis City SC $675 million +3%
    19 Nashville SC $670 million +5%
    20-2 New York Red Bulls $660 million +2%
    21-6 Minnesota United FC $655 million 0%
    22-1 Houston Dynamo FC $600 million +3%
    23-3 San Jose Earthquakes $585 million -3%
    24+2 Real Salt Lake $580 million +10%
    25-1 Orlando City SC $565 million +6%
    26-1 New England Revolution $560 million +6%
    27-4 FC Dallas $555 million +3%
    28-1 Colorado Rapids $480 million +1%
    29-1 Vancouver Whitecaps FC $450 million -4%
    30-1 CF Montreal $430 million -4%
     
  18. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  19. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    OK so $585M. How can RottenFish not find a buyer? Maybe no one wants to partner with him, and the potentials think it’s too much to pay for our shitty team?

    Or maybe there’s a deal in the works and it just takes a longtime to work out the details?

    Or maybe there’s no deal on the table at all?

    I’m depressed.

    Go Quakesfans!!
     
  20. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    It’s the fisher stench. At this point this team is lagging so far behind, competitively, a new owner has to buy the team and then invest heavily (on top of that) in order to compete in today’s MLS. It’s a tough sell I expect.
     
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  21. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wouldn’t think so.

    The team is under valued. The league is still growing. The team is in one of the biggest media markets in the US. The team already has its own stadium. MLS isn’t as expensive a league as others. It’s a global league in a global sport, unlike other sports leagues in our country.

    A savvy owner, with several billion dollars in net worth, could easily afford to invest in the team and still make money on the deal.

    And there are more than a few billionaires in the Bay Area.

    Go Quakesfans!!
     
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  22. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    o_O
     
  23. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Objectively, the team is undervalued. A good owner could increase the club’s value by $300M or $400M.

    But, perception counts. And because the team is shitty, some potential buyers might be turned off.

    :thumbsup:
     
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  24. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
    Staff Member

    Earthquakes and Bay FC
    United States
    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I understand they're all afraid of the wealth tax and have decamped to Florida and Texas.
     
  25. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    To do it right they (a new owner or ownership group) need to invest in an academy training facility which can also serve as an upgraded training ground/facility for our first team, something that got dropped after all the hullabaloo. Those are expensive.

    My guess, we will be a bottom payroll team or thereabouts. So, they will also need to invest in some better players. Then there are probably a whole bunch of other upgrades and expenses that need to get covered to bring the Quakes into the current era and able to run with the competitive sides. There's rather a lot to consider beyond the $585 million price tag.

    Quakes have been crap for so long that I imagine we have maybe 100 season ticket holders left, give or take (just a random guess, we can't know) but season ticket holders are critical to the financial health and viability of a team. The only way to get those numbers up is by putting a competitive product on the field.

    So, the revenue picture, also pretty bleak for any potential buyer, I expect.

    Its all related to Fisher running our team into the ground since 2008.
     

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