The Official John J. Fisher ownership thread

He convinced your self proclaimed god, Matias Almedya, who you never heard of prior to San Jose.

 

Hungry and ready for a challenge is one thing, signing up for a career busting assignment as San Jose’s latest scapegoat in chief, another.

The best predictor of future performance is past performance, without a realistic plan for progress and change.

Leitch bears responsibility for his choices but he also has to operate in a little small team box, he has to shop at the discount dollar store, the spending parameters are set for him and he, like everyone before him (all the prior coaches and GMs), they haven’t been able to make it work.

If there’s a candidate that takes the GM position here without assurances from Fisher that this time, finally, he’s going to step up and provide this team with what they need to succeed…

…no thanks. We have 16 years of proof that the Fisher way doesn’t work.

 

You have criticized CL ad infinitum for the job that he's done. So either:

1) He hasn't done a very good job and someone else could do better,

or,

2) He has no agency in the failing - he's done as well as anyone could do because the resources weren't there anyway.

But you can't have it both ways. Choose one.

 

Frank Yallop, Dominic Kinnear and Tim Hanley didn't seem to have that problem in 2001 when our past history was filled with bad trades (Baicher, Bravo, Wynalda, Wright) and the worst team in MLS history until 2001. Seems we turned out just fine. We had the lowest salary in the league in 2001-2005, only team lower died after 2001 (Tampa Bay).

What does the team need exactly?

 

You should stop throwing gas on the fire that won't end, you can't convince a Muppet when they've already been fed their lines. Go enjoy the game.

 

Why? He’s done a poor job, he’s a part of the failed corporate culture here and, he’s an integral part of the FO that brought us to this point. And, his job is especially difficult because his boss, John Fisher, is the cheapest of all the cheapskates and the worst owner in all of professional sports.

Sometimes two things can be true, at the same time!

 

OK, so if he's done a "poor job", then it follows that someone else can do a better job. Otherwise he's done as well as any human could possible do in the given situation, and you will therefore retract all your criticism of him!

 

He doesn't have anyone else to blame. He has yet to blame Jesse Fiornaelli or John Doyle. When they've had the same 'constraints' you'd imagine? He's convinced himself, Leitch is a complete failure in everything he does, and its also Fishers 100% fault.

 

lol, your logic is flawed. We can do better than Leitch and any GM is going to struggle here without a greater commitment to progress from the top.

 

@JazzyJ He contradicts himself every post, its first "We can do better then Leitch", followed up with an oxymoron of "Any GM will struggle here without greatest commitment to progress for the top", which has been proven this year already, we've invested 2x more money then spent the past year.

He forgets 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013. We could make the playoffs (Like last year), but because it's not a home playoff game, Leitch fails. Luchi contributed to Letich's failures as well, by giving him, a very bad suggested player short list.

 

Nope, my logic is sound. You're trying to have it both ways. You have complained many times about the job that CL is doing. If he's doing a terrible job, it follows that someone can come in here and do a much better job. If such a person doesn't exist, then CL actually hasn't done a bad job, he simply has no agency in a hopeless situation.

 

There have been many poor decisions by GMs and coaches over the years. Fish was not forcing them to make those decisions. In some cases those decisions were costly. They weren't about a lack of $. Examples:

- Jesse hiring Stahre.

- Almeyda signing his FOM's for ~$1M when those $1M contracts could go to better non-FOM players.

- CL choosing not to use any U22 slots.

- Doyle signing Innocent

Those are a few of the many poor decisions along the way.

 

Chris Leitch hasn't been elite by any means, as a GM he's average to slightly below average by Major League Soccer standards. A bad GM = 30 year old Lynne Meterperel who sent our best guy in 1999 to New England.

 

I'd add all those as being worse then not using any U22 slots, but they could also have been waiting for the end of this season when we unload a bunch of potential big contracts to free up a bunch of cash to see what they can do, who they can get, then see about adding the U22 DPs, knowing if they signed some U22 DPs into an already bad situation would be detrimental. So they could have a long term plan in place, first was get a Keeper and a 10, we got both. So they could just have a checklist and they STILL have to operate in the MLS roster rule windows as well.

No team is complete by Spring training because our season is opposite many other season's so guys contracts come up and end opposite ours, Summer them, winter us, which is why teams make big summer moves.

Doyle signing Edmundo and Eduardo worse then Innocent.

 

I had high hopes for CL but yeah, even with the most generous appraisal he's been below average. A most generous appraisal would be: write off 2022 because it was the Almeyda (not his choice) lame duck year, 2nd year we make the playoffs (ish), 3rd year we're terrible. If you write off the 1st year you have a barely playoff team and an historical bad team. So even if you "average" that out, it's not good.

 

Sorry Jazz…I’ve made it as clear as I can.

Hope you enjoy the game!

 

I agree with you.

I'd rather have Leitch then the clown down in Orlando. HE's A CLOWN and the only reason they're not the worst team in MLS history, is because they have a VERY good coach

 

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