The Official John J. Fisher ownership thread

Discussion in 'San Jose Earthquakes' started by xbhaskarx, Mar 30, 2019.

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John Fisher

Poll closed Oct 30, 2019.
  1. should spend more money

    20 vote(s)
    62.5%
  2. should fire Fox and/or Fioranelli

    10 vote(s)
    31.3%
  3. should bring in additional owners

    10 vote(s)
    31.3%
  4. should sell the team

    11 vote(s)
    34.4%
  5. is not the problem

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. is doing a great job!

    1 vote(s)
    3.1%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1 xbhaskarx, Mar 30, 2019
    Last edited: Mar 30, 2019
    There are threads for Tom Fox, Jesse Fioranelli, Matias Almeyda, etc. but not for Quakes owner John Fisher...

    Who is John Fisher?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_J._Fisher
    https://www.forbes.com/profile/john-fisher/


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    From Reddit:

    A rare John Fisher sighting at Avaya from today's 5-0 loss to LAFC:

    In the news...
    John Fisher scores huge windfall: Will anything change?
     
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  2. LongTimeQuakesFan'74

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Nov 12, 2007
    Arlington, TX, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Act like an owner that cares about the product, on and off the field.
    At the very least, care like an owner who cares what Lars thinks.
    He cares, he’s written songs about the team. “Never Say Die”.
     
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  3. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Thank you for starting the thread. I'm surprised it took 12 years to make one. I always wanted to start one but it seemed the more I complained about Fisher, the more apologetic posters on the board would defend him. Of course the problem with this team starts with him.

    I mean we have had to endure John Doyle, Frank Yallop, Mark Watson, Dom Kinnear, Leitch, Stahre, Fioranelli and now Almeyda.

    Can they be all that bad or should we start pointing the finger at Fisher?
     
  4. LongTimeQuakesFan'74

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Nov 12, 2007
    Arlington, TX, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes. He owns a soccer team in the top flight...if there was pro/rel, look out he’d bail out on us in a NYCFC minute.
     
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  5. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  6. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Nice to see Fisher's other team winning...


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  7. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Owner: Shareholders of Celtic plc (LSE: CCP)​

    Celtic FC is a PLC, Fisher is just a shareholder and has no control over the team. Apparently their largest individual shareholder is some Irish dude named Dermot Desmond.
     
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  8. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #8 xbhaskarx, Mar 31, 2019
    Last edited: Mar 31, 2019
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  9. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Another MLS owner who has made himself heard before Fisher.
     
  10. SalinasQuakesFan

    Mar 27, 2010
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    What did he say to Fisher?
     
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  11. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think more people were commenting on you saying we needed to hear from Fisher. Like that would magically make things better. What if he spoke and we didn't like what we heard? I don't need to see or hear from him, I just want him to operate this team likes he gives a damn.
     
  12. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #12 falvo, Mar 31, 2019
    Last edited: Mar 31, 2019
    That’s you but many other fans would love to hear from their owner. Especially now by reading the boards, of course they do. On the other hand, he can continue staying silent and make himself be heard by just being involved and producing a winner or even positive results, for that matter. That’s true of most sports owners but he doesn’t do either.

    He hasn’t given us fans any assurances or news since he bought the club 12 years ago. We haven’t heard a word from the ownership since Lew Wolff retired or was bought out. Heck even Lew once said he “didn’t care what fans thought” in regards to firing Yallop.

    All he does is communicate through his GM’s and we all blame them but who hired them in the first place and/or who is at fault if they fail?
     
  13. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    This is just from a few weeks ago, March 15, 2019 ...


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  14. staudio

    staudio Member+

    Mar 7, 2008
    Marin
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What if he sells it and someone like former Warriors owner Chris Cohen buys the team. Very slippery slope.......
     
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  15. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Whomever he sells to, as long as he keeps the team in town, he can't do any worse than what we see now...
     
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  16. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is the actual problem right here, the rot begins and ends here, we have the second worst owner in mls begins Anthony precourt
     
  17. Antonio2020

    Antonio2020 Member

    Nov 28, 2016
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    As stated in the poll above, I think Fisher should bring in more owners, kind of like what you see with (gulp) LAFC. Perhaps we could get a minority owner who can act as the face of the team (a Will Ferrell type) and who wants to win. My other idea would actually be one of the other major franchises of The Bay (Sharks, Warriors, Niners or Giants) become owners/investors in the Quakes.
     
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  18. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "A minority owner who can act as the face of the team" was exactly what Lew Wolff was. If Fisher wants to bring in another ownership partner to take that role, he could do it, but it only matters if that partner does a good job. Will Ferrell is not an analogous example--he's basically a very rich mascot. He's not calling any shots, but he's a popular guy to trot out there for publicity's sake.
    The Quakes are already owned by the owner of another major Bay Area franchise. We can't magically make somebody else own them.
     
  19. Beckham7

    Beckham7 Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    Northern, California
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  20. Antonio2020

    Antonio2020 Member

    Nov 28, 2016
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Of course we can't "magically" make anything happen, we're just sharing ideas here; relax ;)
    FWIW, LAFC's ownership structure has elements of the Dodgers, Lakers and Warriors (?).
     
  21. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I want all of the first three options:
    • should spend more money
    • should fire Fox and/or Fioranelli
    • should bring in additional owners
    If we can't have those, then I want number four:
    • should sell the team
    • is not the problem - Yes, he freaking is!
    • is doing a great job! - No, he's freaking NOT!
    And no mistake, Fisher sets the budget but doesn't do much more than that. We need to see the very last of Jesse soon, and maybe Tom Fox as well.

    Go Quakesfans!!
    Fisher OUT!!

    - Mark
     
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  22. raindawg

    raindawg Member

    Sep 22, 2000
    SF Bay Area
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  23. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    #23 Quakes05, Mar 31, 2019
    Last edited: Mar 31, 2019
    Amazing to hear everyone finally acknowledging what I’ve been saying in here for years, Fisher is the problem, he’s not some part of the problem. Nothing changes for San Jose until Fisher is gone, unless he has an epiphany and decides he wants to play ball, which I just don’t foresee.
     
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  24. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The NYTimes had an interesting article about the disappointing ownership of the NY Knicks. A lot of the complaints sound so familiar:
    • For the 2nd time in 5 years, the Knicks won only 17 games, a franchise low.
    • The Knicks failed to make the playoffs for the 6th consecutive year, and the 12th time in the last 15 years.
    • "It’s a staggering level of impotence for a team that spends as much money as it does and has all the inherent advantages of playing in New York City at Madison Square Garden."
    • "That enduring failure, combined with [James L.] Dolan’s public mistreatment of some fans, has led to a growing anger and skepticism in a disaffected, if dedicated, fan base."
    • Still, they average over 19,000 fans per game no matter how bad they have been
    • "There is also a perception among fans and people in the league that prospective players want no part of the bungling Knicks because the team is mismanaged to a point where winning is nearly impossible."
    • "Mills added that he and Perry were working hard to change the perception of the Knicks and that David Fizdale, the coach, was a draw for both players and fans by dint of his magnetic personality."
    • “If [Kevin] Durant thinks playing for the Knicks is what’s best for his business and branding goals, Dolan’s reputation as an unpleasant, impulsive individual isn’t going to change that.”
    BTW, I'm not saying John Fisher is unpleasant or impulsive, i am sure he is the opposite. But the note about a player considering what is best for his brand in joining a team is interesting...
     
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  25. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Fisher needs to seek out to big name , local high tech companies or investors to make them minority owners. LAFC is brand new and they already are top of the league and are doing everything right. Granted, they haven't won anything yet but its only their second year and we are in year 12.

    Whther they are silent partners or not, look at these names!

     
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