1. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have had a few squatters in my seats over the years, they always move with no problems. The ones I think are funny are those that come up to me and tell me that I am in their seats while they are looking at their tickets on their phone. I am like, "oh really, are you sure? I have had these same seats since the stadium opened." Then they insist and show me their ticket. I say, "yep, correct row, correct seat numbers, but......wrong section!" :rolleyes:
    Now that I have dumped my 107 seats for 2025, I am going to be a respectful, low-impact nomadic squatter in the mold of JazzyJ.:)
     
  2. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    One advantage to being a fan of a bad team that no one comes to watch :).
     
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  3. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    :thumbsup: yes, the good news: $25-30 sit-anywhere tickets are nice.

    :thumbsdown: the bad: nothing about this seems sustainable so enjoy them for what they're worth, while you can, before our team ends up in Sacramento or Vegas or something.

    PPP is too small for a competitive team! The numbers don't work! Just ask John. :rolleyes:
     
  4. Kaitlyn

    Kaitlyn Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 25, 2014
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's too small yes, they could add another 5 thousand or more seats if they got rid of the stupid ass LOBINA and enclosed the stadium, and instead of a bunch of people hanging out at a bar dancing, they'd you know actually watch the game?

    PPP has a high school football game feel, lots of people hanging out at the concession stands while the games being played, its not a good look when a shit ton of people are shown on AppleTV with there backs turned to the game at the LOBINA.

    So yes we have the most unprofessional soccer stadium in the country, the smallest MLS stadium in the country and everything else falls into place.

    I doubt we move to Vegas.
     
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  5. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Yes, but we get to watch the stars.....on other teams!
     
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  6. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    Not since the place opened have we had a packed house and a waitlist for season tickets. The numbers fell off pretty quick when we rolled that money into DP's like Emeghara.

    I don't think Fisher even knows what the revenue picture could look like if he was selling 18k tickets per game. If the team was built to compete, he could ask more for tickets, he'd see big boosts in all the gameday revenue streams, parking, merchandise, food, drinks...

    ...yes, he'd be spending more for players and personnel to run the operation...but he would be bringing in a lot more $$$ too.

    It's rich to hear him use 18k PPP as an excuse when (a) he built the place to his own specifications and (b) avg attendance hovers at around 50% capacity, probably less.
     
  7. Kaitlyn

    Kaitlyn Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 25, 2014
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We had a packed house until Almedya destroyed the team in 2019 and it really started to decline.

    John Fisher has very little to do with the day to day operations of the team, thats the Team Presidents job.

    Fisher just pays the bills.
     
  8. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    For me, Fisher is the problem (as you know)...it starts with him (the people he hires to run the show and the little, small team budget they have to work with) and it rolls downhill from there...

    ...and PPP opened in 2015. The numbers in the stands had tanked hard loooong before the great Matias Almeyda arrived in San Jose. :)
     
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  9. Kaitlyn

    Kaitlyn Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 25, 2014
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actually you couldn't be any more wrong. While we declined a little bit, we TANKED our attendance under Almedya. We had a large boost in attendance under Luchi Gonzalez, and then tanked a year later. We will see where we are next year.

    https://www.transfermarkt.us/san-jose-earthquakes/besucherzahlenentwicklung/verein/218
     
  10. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    well, you have some data so maybe the numbers dropped off a little more slowly than I remember, after 2015...

    Matias was here during covid so that explains that. Remember after 2019 we had the offseason of austerity when the only player we signed was Alanis...

    ...it was pretty pitiful but then that's the norm for Fisher.

    Glad you're feeling better btw!
     
  11. Kaitlyn

    Kaitlyn Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 25, 2014
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There wasn't much movement for any team in the world during Covid19, but thats not an excuse for failures at all because every team in the entire world (Especially MLS) had to deal with the same restrictions, alterations and mandates.

    Matias, good coach elsewhere, one of the worst coaches in SJ history for the rest of time.

    Fisher doesn't recruit players.

    I ask you a question though, tell me how the Quakes improve because he opened the check book for HLM the #10 everyone begged for... Tell me how the quakes improve without mentioning anything directly related to your opinion of Fisher failing?

    Thank you for the wishes, i got out of the hospital again last night.
     
  12. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    Stay strong, you've really been going through it, hopefully better days are just around the corner!

    Simple, Leitch has to do a lot more signing than HLM and he has to make better use of our DP slots than Gruezo.
     
  13. Kaitlyn

    Kaitlyn Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 25, 2014
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Luchi requested and recruited Gruezo. That's not on Leitch.
     
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  14. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    True, though Leitch went along, and then got completely fleeced by Augsburg and Gruezo's agent.
     
  15. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    I'm sure it's Leitch's name on that contract, next to Gruezo's. Coaches have varying amounts of input but GMs across all sports are responsible for putting together the roster. It's their primary responsibility. Leitch is no different.

    If you're suggesting that Leitch is succeeding at GM in SJ, we will have to disagree.
     
  16. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    There's no way around it imo, Rick Astley has let us down. :(
     
  17. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #1042 falvo, Sep 8, 2024
    Last edited: Sep 8, 2024
    In Europe anyway, the GM or the president signs players the coach wants.

    Usually, the owners are the presidents.

    MLS is different as most owners rely on others to scout and sign players.


    The Quakes had Doyle, Fioranelli and Leitch sign their players and I don’t know how much of a say their coaches had when tryiing to get the players they wanted.
     
  18. Kaitlyn

    Kaitlyn Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 25, 2014
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Welcome to the world of sports. Agent's doing their job, who'd a thunk.
     
  19. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    It's fine for agents to do their job. Not fine for GM's to allow themselves to be fleeced by them. They probably went into that negotiation with the wrong attitiude - like we *have to* get Carlos Gruezo. Luchi really wants him and we have to fix our defense! If you go into a negotation without being willing to walk away you're opening yourself up to a fleecing.
     
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  20. Kaitlyn

    Kaitlyn Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 25, 2014
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Find one post in my history where I say Leitch is doing a 'good' job. You're also very wrong again about coaches having only varying amounts of input. Coaches are greatly involved in the MLS with roster construction. They almost have as much say to roster construction as the GM.

    Leitch is responsible for finalizing the deals with players who are coming in and handling the agents and players demands. He is also responsible for compiling the reports from the Coaches Wants, Scouting Reports and getting with the head coach to discuss roster needs.
     
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  21. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    And GM's not doing theirs, which is more to the point.

    Have you been impressed with Leitch? You asked me for a non-Fisher related reason for why the Quakes are where they are - I gave you one.

    How would you rate him as GM?
     
  22. Kaitlyn

    Kaitlyn Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 25, 2014
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not impressed with Leitch. He's done more then Fioranelli and less then Doyle.

    As a whole, I'm not impressed with Shawlee, Fisher, Covello, and Leitch.

    Fisher can't be fixed, all the others should be fired.
     
  23. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    When coaches have too much input, too soon, with limited resources available, you end up with FoM's and FoL's...and nobody wants that, unless they're more like Chofis or Espinoza, of course.

    We don't really have scouts per say and we just disagree that coaches are primarily responsible for building rosters.

    That's not really how it works at all.
     
  24. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    Fisher has to hire the right people and then give them the resources they need to put together a competitive team. It's the same all over.
     
  25. Kaitlyn

    Kaitlyn Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 25, 2014
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We can disagree about coaches, but thats the role MLS coaches have in the MLS. It's just the facts. I've seen the ground zero. My qualifications and license also say other wise to the knowledge of fact how it works in US Soccer.
     
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