The official "Fox News Channel Needs to be Destroyed" thread

Nor belly dancers.

Pity

at least we have Univision for that.

 

So basically, what we've concluded after five pages of the usual sniping is that pretty much all mainstream news outlet are biased and suck like a five year old at the Neverland Ranch.

Good, we've indentified a problem : The complete lack of a center in public discourse.

Now what?

 

Blow **** up?

 

What would have been an appropriate term to use?
I don't like the fact that the Fire lost both Beasley and Bocanegra around the same time, but I can live with it. Am I also expressing arrogant presumptuousness there?

Now let me be clear that the reason we get the WSJ at all is because of my wife's job, and I rarely read the thing that thoroughly, but I've also never encountered anything at all that could even remotely be considered liberal in its slant. If anything, the news section is a model of objectivity. Susan Faludi used to write for the WSJ. Is that what you're thinking of?

If the WSJ isn't as objective a source for news as a newspaper can be, please tell me what is. The Financial Times? The Economist, perhaps? Or is it the case that there is not a single objective source for news anywhere (leaving aside Philosophy 101 arguments about whether true objectivity can exist)?

Correct, you didn't--you simply vehemently disgreed with my assertion that FOX is news for imbeciles. Fine, FOX is somewhere between high-quality news and news for imbeciles. If I flip past it later this afternoon and catch a report damning the authorities in Aruba for something or another, I'll note to myself that I shouldn't necessarily consider that story idiotic.

 

Jesus are you delicate or what

 

I`ve seen Fox News the first time as i visited California (I LOVE IT!) last march.
Indeed, the first show i saw was O`Reilly and i really laughed my ass off. I never heard of it before and i was absolutely sure i was watching a political satire show. There was a college guy from idontknow who said that the twin towers had been legal war targets for some reason that sounded convincing but i cant remember anymore and this old gay (pardon, guy) O`Reilly really got terrible angry and insultet the college guy as a liberal-terrorist-coward-a$$hole-son-of-a-bitch (not exactly his words but very similar) and afterwards said his famous "fair and balanced" phrase. Great entertainment.

After that i saw Jerry Springer (unbeliveable!) and a show on a outdoor tv station in which an old guy tried to shoot a turkey with a crossbow. They really showed this man sitting 2 hours in a tent, making very funny sounds to attract a (female?) turkey! I dont know if he made it, but it simply was ridiculuos.

I love the us television. What a great material satire!

 

Not slow, you are......

 

Just putting this out here:

I've just finished writing an article for a reasonably well known education journal which will likely contain things some Bill O'reilly-stlyed ultra-fascists will find offensive. If they (FOX news) would like to report on that ad naseum a la Ward Churchill or Al Franken I could sure use the exposure/sales.

So, if anyone from Fox is reading this please contact me via PM so we can begin the hostilities.

Thanks,
-Karl

 

Now we blow up the notion of a ********ing center and demand that news actually conduct investigative journalism instead of "reporting," or acting as megaphones (in the best case) and stenographers (in Fox's case) for power?

Center, indeed. There's truth-seeking, and then there's truth-positioning/truth-packaging. Notions of the center are the latter. Democratic pillars of free press that serve democratic societies are the former.

 

fox"news" is a ********ing joke, and this is coming from an actual journalist who knows what that word means - the entire purpose of that network is to push agenda and ideas, and it's not even remotely tricky to figure that out - even if you find "outfoxed" to be biased (surprise!), there is no getting around the "news" department memos they uncovered - those memos clearly proved that FNC is not a legitimate news organization, but a republicon mouthpiece - it matters not how much you protest because those who see clearly through FNC also understand that, for you and your precious administration, it is always more important how things appear than how they actually are

and btw i love when neocons cry that true investigative journalism is always liberal or against them... perhaps that should tell you something

before i leave you to your squabble, i'll post the easiest and most clearcut episode of FNC's bias:

after receiving complaint letters over his statement, the utter dumb******** laughably tries to refute assertions that he has no journalistic integrity or objectivity by replying over the air in a segment titled "american first, journalist second":

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=2766679/K=neil+cavuto+am+i+biased%3F/v=2/SID=e/l=WS1/R=7/IPC=nl/SHE=0/H=2/;_ylt=AhaO24N0EX_brE.xzsVcCWFXNyoA/SIG=125lq54h9/EXP=1120292425/*-http%3A//www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,82504,00.html


never mind that he basically admits he has no journalistic integrity several times in his rant.... that's right, just do it the karl k. way! lie through your teeth, move the goalposts, try to guilt people using the troops as cover, try to discredit anyone who doesn't fall in line with your selfish wants as non-patriots and then launch an insanely childish insult tirade


there ya go, ITN: your one precious glorious example - i could go on all day with these, but what's the point?

 

OUTFOXED...for free! Watch and enjoy the bias...

 

Fox news is sooooooooooooo biased towards the republican party and George Bush that it's almost untrue, that idoit Bill O'Rielly spends half of his time critizing democrats. I prefer a news channel thats fair and unbiased

 

FNC has destroyed its credibility long ago... so i just fail to acknowledge it as an actual news channel.....

 

Precisely - I can't believe this thread is still going. "Fox News" is just a label - it's an entertainment channel, a conduit for pre-packaged rhetoric and easly digested political groupthink, all presented as news but actually perceived by anyone with a brain as entertainment. Face it - only complete cretins with no actual interest in the answer will ask themselves the question "hey I wonder what happened in the news today?" and then flick on Fox to find out.

Just watch it for what it is - a comedy show to pass the time between the top of the hour on any of the actual news channels.

 

We don't have any actual news channels over here.

 

They're biased towards making huge profits. Murdoch had the sense to realize that there's a lot more money to be made peddling right wing drivel.

http://mediabistro.com/tvnewser/

 

Sounds like Dr. Dean!

 

Ah, well yes. There is that. But don't your digital providers offer Canadian or Mexican channels? I mean, any step up is still a step up.

And the Beeb has a presence in the US, no?

 

Ya, free speech sucks. Time to move to Burma.

 

I agree, just don't watch it. If people want to be brainewashed that is their choice. However there is an alternative

 

...Formerly a registered Republican, even a precinct captain, Kimery became an independent in the 1990s when he said the state party stopped taking input from everyday members.

Kimery now contends Fox News' top-level management dictates a conservative journalistic bias, that inaccuracies never are retracted, and what airs is more opinion than news...

cool!