The Official PayPal Park thread

Discussion in 'San Jose Earthquakes' started by Goodsport, Nov 19, 2014.

  1. run_it_out

    run_it_out Member+

    Earthquakes
    United States
    Jun 19, 2018
    If we couldn't discuss moot points, there would be no posts on this board.

    Who will be our third DP?
    Will we win this week's game?
    Should we sign players from the academy?
    etc etc
     
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  2. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    San Jose Earthquakes: Ex-employee admits to concessions ...

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    San Jose: Ex-Earthquakes Stadium manager pleads guilty to ...
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  4. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/02...y-to-sabotaging-concessions-system-last-year/
    (direct link)
    This article is very confusing, at first read suggesting that he'd been fired from another job in Philadelphia at the end of December. But I'd assume he was fired from his job serving the Earthquakes account then, wasn't working for the team in February, yet was able to log in and sabotage the system.

    Anyone here get the free concessions the article mentions? We were in line for at least a half hour and missed the first few minutes of what would prove to be our only in-person game in 2020!
     
  5. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't we need a second DP before we start speculating about a third DP?
     
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  6. davidjd

    davidjd Member+

    Jun 30, 2000
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The guy should be held fully liable for his actions, but there is ZERO excuse for the lack of controls the company had in place to allow this. Either they never got around to cutting off his access or there was a shared password. I could see this 20 years ago happening, but any legit company has strict policies in place for either situation because, well, you'd never want an ex-employee causing problems.
     
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  7. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy

    He is the only one who got caught that we know of but who knows how many others got away with it and no one ever knew about it?
     
  8. davidjd

    davidjd Member+

    Jun 30, 2000
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm talking beyond individuals. If this were an individual sharing their password, then they'd know who that was (because the login was used for the crime.) My guess is that either nobody deactivated the terminated user or they had one shared admin password which wasn't reset (and shouldn't exist except for integration purposes) to access the system. Those last things put the company squarely at fault here for a lack of standard controls. It's just unacceptable these days.
     
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  9. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You mean like how many times did someone screw with gameday operations and no one noticed it?o_O:confused:
     
  10. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Exactly, How many others have pulled similar stunts like this through the years and were never caught?
     
  11. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    According to my sources they've changed the password from "password" to "password1", so they should be safe.
     
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  12. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
  13. SoccerMan94043

    SoccerMan94043 Member+

    May 29, 2003
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  14. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  15. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Is it easy to embezzle $270k from PayPal?
     
  16. Eddie Stiel

    Eddie Stiel Member+

    Sep 27, 2011
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I suppose beggars can't be choosers.

    I used PayPal for a few recurring monthly payments. I switched credit cards, changed the information on PayPal, and those payments bounced. I found out because I am part of the leadership of one of the groups so I saw the bounce notification emails from PayPal. Otherwise, I wouldn't have known.

    Customer support was beyond useless. The online communication is a little box that has room for one or two words that scroll horizontally as you type, ridiculous. Email/chat support seemed to be offshore and was for sure incompetent. Two or three agents couldn't solve my problem. All is well, don't worry. I figured it out, closed my account and made alternative arrangements with the organizations.

    That said, I hope to see a game at the stadium eventually. I have a ticket for the Chivas/Leon match that has been rescheduled three times, from March 2020 to October 2020 to March 2021 to October 2021. I'd say it's 50/50 for that date. March 2022 next?
     
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  17. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    First, I’m chuffed that we’re going to get a new stadium sponsor.
    Second, I’m extra chuffed that it’s PayPal, because I like them and have used them for years.

    But, I was shocked by this.

    We had to hire an outside firm to get this done?! Then why the f@#$ are we paying our front office staff? I mean, why couldn’t we swing this deal on our own? We needed hired guns to make this happen? Is that because we’re incompetent? Or is it the case that neither PayPal nor any other big tech company would talk to us directly? (I consider this vanishingly unlikely.)

    Go Quakesfans!!

    - Mark
     
  18. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Zero!
     
  19. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Since that company exists there is obviously a market for their services. I would rather have real experts at corporate sponsorships working on this than someone who would be over there head.
     
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  20. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    OK, then why are we paying our executives? And also, why don’t we try to hire someone away from this consulting firm?

    One of the main reasons to hire consultants like this is so that if the project goes south, the consultants take the blame, rather than the permanent employees.

    We should have been able to do this on our own. But whatever, a new stadium sponsor is a step in the right direction.

    Go Quakesfans!!

    - Mark
     
  21. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    None that you know of....
     
  22. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The FO can likely handle the run of the mill sponsorships, but, multi-year/multi-million dollar deals like naming rights might be better in the hands of those with more expertise in that area.
     
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  23. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have not heard of other sports venues having their game day point of sales operations sabotaged like the Quakes did.
     
  24. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That would have made the news, don’t you think? Also, its a stupid crime to commit because you’re overwhelmingly likely to get caught, and there’s no chance that you can pay the ticket. This wanker is going to be on the hook for $270K, plus the discounts offers, so probably north of $300K? Maybe $325?

    What a dork.

    GO Quakesfans!!

    - Mark
     
  25. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #8100 falvo, Feb 19, 2021
    Last edited: Feb 19, 2021
    Around the world in regards to stadiums and construction anyway or wherever there is potential for fraud and wrong doing, it happens all the time...

    Ex-St Petersburg official admits to stadium embezzlement ...

    It happens in other areas of the country too....

    Charleston Man Indicted For Embezzlement At Stadium Grill ...


    Duckett Convicted Of Fraud, Conspiracy In Dillon Stadium ...



    Developer convicted of fraud in Hartford, CT soccer stadium ...



     

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