I saw all of these 'official' threads on so many other players, but none on DD. This thread is inteded to rectify that situation Dwayne's been playing awesome ball as of late, which only bodes well for both the Quakes and the Canadian nats. It's only a matter of time until he starts pottiong them in on a regular basis, methinks.
I think Dwayne is great, too, but sometimes one does get the impression that Dwayne feels he is out there all by himself.
I would guess not only does he feel out there all by himself, but feels hes the only one out on the pitch trying to win. If giving 100%,is not enough, what the hell is. You can't score on every opportunity, but at the least, to his credit,he created the chance. What would you do if you were Dero? Donovan is not clicking as yet. One option gone. Midfields, forget about it. What would you do? Not much left but yourself, right.
DeRo has been finding Donovan with perfect set-ups. I haven't seen it the other way around. I have seen Landon blow those perfect set-ups, but stay on the field when DeRo gets subbed...
That must be very frustrating for DeRo, especially given the he is always subbed out while Landon stays on the field. Nonetheless, I think Landon is too talented to continue to tank all of those gift-wrapped set ups that DeRo seems to be sending his way lately. As a Canadian, I hope DeRo's stays at his current form come WCQ. Those kinds of set-ups are exactly what guys like Tomasz Radzinski and Paul Peschisolido thrive on.
This is the first time I'm looking at this thread, and I'm surprised so little has been said. So let me wax on wax off. When Dwayne had his serious injury about 1-2 years ago, I didn't miss watching him because I felt he was a typical forward - - took a lot of shots, with a really low success rate, and seldom passed. Frank Yallop once characterized him as someone to bring into the game in order to stir things up. But in coming back from his injury, DeRosario has clearly taken his game to the next level, and I don't just mean the technique he demonstrated in his two Goals of the Week. He is feeding great balls to the other attackers. His control is almost infallible and his confidence is palpable. E.g., when Brian Ching makes his first touch, you know the ball is going to bounce 3 feet away, and you wonder if ANYONE, much less Ching, will get to the ball to continue the attack. But on Dwayne's first touch, you wonder what he is going to do with it. You can see in his face (yes, I have good seats) that he is going to do something, whether it is a great pass, a great move, or a flick on to himself. In the NE Revs game where SJ came back from 0-2 to tie the game, it was Dwayne who started things rolling as soon as he entered the game at 70'. He was playing left half, and with his crossing from the left and Brian Mullan crossing from the right, the Revs goal became like a shooting gallery even tho SJ was a man down. So the only things I wonder about are (1) why he only gets 10-20' per game, and (2) will he be grabbed in the expansion draft by someone willing to give him the playing time he deserves (assuming SJ remains a team). Wax Off!
DeRo was a brilliant role-player for Yallop. He failed to hit brilliance in his first chances as a starter with Dom, and now it looks like Dom has reverted to using him as a role-player again. This is sad since DeRo is really likeable, really good, and (when not frustrating) really fun to watch. He also gives 100% all the time. My only wish is that his passing (especially his one-touch flicks etc) and his teammates (or where they are on the field) were more in synch. No, I lied. I have another wish: I'd really like to see DeRo start as our left-mid with LD and Ching up top. I really think he could excell out wide, and the way he gives 100% makes me think he could be a pesky defender as well.
I think you're wrong. DeRosario gives 110% all the time, just like Brian Mullan. Speaking as a devout soccer mom, those two make me proud. They and Landon are the 3 main reasons why I tell people they need to watch a SJ game in person. And I agree it would be great to see Dwayne play more LH (even tho he might not like it), especially if he replaces Corrales. Corrales has improved a lot and is becoming a good defender, but I still hate to watch him play because he wastes so many shots and appears to be so out of sync with the rest of the players. I don't think DeRosario is out of sync on his passes. Most of his passes are spot on, the problem is that most of them have to go to Ching. If you haven't noticed, Ching can't adjust his runs very much, but also he often looks confused out there and seems to run to the wrong spot. And since he does not have very quick feet, a ball 6" out of his reach is a lost opportunity.
AMEN! But in Ching's defense, this bit is typical. DeRo is unusual in his ability to not only make that a contestable ball, but often to make something out of it. Watch one of Ching's misses last weekend - DeRo follows a long throw over his head and courageously wins a ball he had no right getting to before being crushed by the keeper and defenders. But DeRo not only won it - he'd knocked a perfect layup over to a wide open teammate. This ability - and his qucikness and staminy for recovery - is also what allows us to play a lot of hoof ball to stretch out the opponent while keeping ourselves compact. But people here often don't get that. They see a guy who looks flashy chasing lost causes around and trying to improvise chances out of nothing - and think he's simply ineffectual unless used as a supersub. It seems if DeRo had less talent, people would appreciate his fight and work rate more - the way they do Ching, Mullan and Mulrooney.
??????????????????????? I, for one, think that DeRo, Mulrooney, Mullan, and Ching (among others) are all quite talented (I really hope you're not trying to say they are not talented!). I mean, DeRo has scored spectacular and important goasl for us, Mulrooney is a known talent, and this season Mullan has been nothing short of a revalation! ...Ching (who has been too often maligned here recently) opened my eyes in his first season here with the Quakes and he has even improved since then. I appreciate the "fight and work rate" of all these players irrespective of their "talent" level. (I think we all appreciate LD's hustle too!) And I'm sure that I'm not alone in really appreciating DeRo for his hustle, effort, and spectacular plays. On the other hand, mjlee22, DeRo has made a lot of errant passes and lost the ball off the dribble a fair number of times this season. You just can't blame that on Ching (or the runs Ching makes -- runs which, by the way, LD claims are great - it's not just me defending him). A lot of times, I think DeRo makes great passes into space. It just seems that he hasn't checked to see if it is "good space" / if a teammate can get there or not (it seems like he has his head down when he makes a lot of these passes) - and a lot of times, the other team seems to get there first. If his teammates could anticipate those passes better, or if DeRo could get his passes to where his teammates are heading more often (and yes! I do remember those wonderful passes he sent in to LD early in the season which LD somehow didn't turn into goals), then the Quakes would be a better team. It seems clear to me that DeRo is an impact player who should be starting for us. It also seems that LD and Ching form a better partnership up top. The perfect compromise (from my point of view - definitely not perfect for Ramiro) would be: ---------LD--Ching -DeRo---QUAKES I don't really know how DeRo would do defensively, but (given his hustle, speed, & effort) I suspect he would actually be quite a thorn in the side of the opposing team. Plus, our opponents would have to stay honest since DeRo presents such a threat on the attack. Plus, DeRo would be in a position to get the ball out on the wing with more space and time to actually run at people. Combine that with Mullan on the right, and we'd create even more chances than we do now!
Thier is no reason why Derosario should not be starting every game. He can play both mid and forward very well and he works very hard.
Is it possible for him to be traded in the off season or left unprotected for expansion? I dont know the SJ roster that well, but I have questioned his inability to crack the starting lineup regularly. I think he would be a guy who would excell given a prolonged chance to start. From the goals I have seen, he can definately score. Maybe you could send him Dallas' way, I would gladly take him up top in a Burn...FC Dallas jersey.
I think the Quakes would prefer to keep Pwamme. The question is whether he is better starting or as the 60th-minute man who can come in and scare the bejeezus out of the other team and score on them.
DeRosario a likely expansion target? I don't know if this has been discussed elsewhere, but the expansion rules are posted at http://www.mlsnet.com/MLS/news/mls_news.jsp?ymd=20040714&content_id=8259&vkey=news_mls&fext=.jsp. You can only protect 12 Senior Roster players. Given that SJ doesn't play Dwayne very much, I assume they would not protect him. And how many first11 national team players are not starters in the MLS? I would think expansion teams would target anyone in that situation, especially Utah. And maybe Chivas would too, if Dwayne speaks SPanish. And as far as DeRosario making some bad passes - - I've watched most of the games and haven't seen that happen very much. Percentage wise I feel he comes out with way more positives than negatives. But I could easily be wrong. Obviously the coaching staff doesn't like something about his play.
Re: DeRosario a likely expansion target? I don't agree. Dwayne is an asset. The issue is how best to use him tactically. I don't think it's the same up against different teams.
Re: DeRosario a likely expansion target? Make no mistake, DeRo will be protected! And his positives definitely outweigh any negatives. He will be a big part of the future of the Quakes. His passing is mentioned because it is an area where he could improve. ...that doesn't mean he's bad at passing - only that it is an area where he could still get better.
Possibly, and based on how the Quakes have performed when he has been playing (so far this season), he should probably be one of the first players to be left unprotected. (Other likely candidates would be Waibel and perhaps Agos.) The Quakes have certainly played better with Ching in than they have with De Rosario in (no matter how exciting his playing is to watch). That doesn't necessarily mean he's a bad player, just that he's not as good for the Quakes or doesn't fit into the team as well as some other players.
De Rosario.... He works better with Landon than Chingy, but Landon and Chingy are on fire right now. Agoos is definately protected. I feel he is the reason we won the cup in 2001. His experience and skill is still appreciated in San Jose and he can still run with the best in MLS. Waibel could be on the bench right now, and he does make his fair share of mistakes but he is a physical guy and he has the mentality. Dont mess with the quakes. But he would probably be left unprotected for some of the other guys. Hopefully Utah doesnt want him.
Right now? In the 16 games in the last two seasons that Ching and Donovan started together, the Quakes are unbeaten, earning 10 wins and 6 draws, with the two combining for 21 goals and 15 assists in those 16 games. That sounds like more than just a streak of good luck. The 2001 cup was 3 years ago, and will be even farther in the past by next season. That is not a reason to protect him. Maybe, but it seem the Quakes have done better this season when Cochrane, Dayak and Dunivant were playing than when Agos or Waibel were in.
If there isn't already one on this board, maybe you guys should start a new thread on expansion speculation, and leave this one to the topic of Dwayne DeRosario.
I was truly surprised that Ching was not taken out earlier in favor of DeRo...he clearly was not playing his game and looked to be hurting. We need that guy down the home stretch! And, given that we had Dr. Jeckyl/Mr. Corrales in at left half (man, how can you follow such a great game with such a stinker? He looked like he couldn't run!), I felt DeRo was the natural choice to put in there. If he 25 minutes to work with, it would've been at least 1-0.