The Official Brian Ching thread

Discussion in 'San Jose Earthquakes' started by dk_dynamite, Apr 29, 2003.

  1. dk_dynamite

    dk_dynamite New Member

    Jan 27, 2003
    SF via London
    Ching dominant in the air!!

    I noticed a wonderful thing on Saturday night... Brian Ching dominates the airwaves!!

    Time and time again Pat would send big goal kicks up over mid-field and Ching would get a head on it and find a man in blue. This is something I cannot remember us having in a long time...

    Once Ronnie gets healthy I think we will see a lot of production out of the mid-field if Ching can find Richard/Ronnie/Ramiro off the long-ball re-starts..
     
  2. FlashMan

    FlashMan Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    'diego
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ching definitely provides a dimension the Quakes haven't had since...well...I'm not sure when.

    Whether this translates into significant goal production remains to be seen.
     
  3. Ringo

    Ringo Member

    Jun 10, 2002
    Rough and Ready
    Club:
    Yeovil Town FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    i just like the fact that he works his butt off at every moment. he's a battler, leaving landon free to make plays. the ching experiment is working so far.
     
  4. We Were Cut

    We Were Cut Member

    Sep 9, 2000
    Woodland, CA
    ...but where are the crosses?

    The crossing was terrible last game, except for corners. Mullan didn't get one across the entire first half...

    Dunivant needs to work on it, too.

    That's where the Quakes miss Wade the most right now.
     
  5. living_ded_boy

    living_ded_boy New Member

    May 24, 2001
    Pleasanton, Ca
    Getting to the ball in the air is only 1/3 the battle, that shot of the post was almost as bad as Onstad's OG. He missed an open net while he was un contested. Waibel was more accurate on the headers. :(
     
  6. due time

    due time Member+

    Mar 1, 1999
    Santa Clara
    Re: ...but where are the crosses?

    The good news is that we know both are fully capable of very good crossing. Personally, I don't remember Dunivant having a bad time, only Mullan.

    I've seen enough of Dunivant to know that between the two, Todd v Wade, Todd has the sweeter left peg. Obviously, FY thinks so too. How many corners did Wade take?
     
  7. StillKickin

    StillKickin Member+

    Austin FC
    Dec 17, 2002
    Texas
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ching dominant in the air!!

    I think Dunivant puts the ball too close to the keeper on his corners. I seem to recall Donovan took one corner against LA and we at least got a play on it... if my memory serves me correctly.
     
  8. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Re: Re: ...but where are the crosses?


    Maybe so, but I don't remember Wade EVER getting schooled by Cobi the way Todd did (several times) last Saturday!
     
  9. Revolt

    Revolt Member+

    Jun 16, 1999
    Davis, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Ching dominant in the air!!

    Brian, quit posting on BS & get back to practice!!!
     
  10. We Were Cut

    We Were Cut Member

    Sep 9, 2000
    Woodland, CA
    Re: Re: ...but where are the crosses?

    Good point. It's only the third pro game in Dunivant's career, so we should see better.
     
  11. chaching

    chaching New Member

    May 3, 2003
    hawaii
    ching

    How good did ching play? I thought he played pretty well personally. A lot of people were doubting him in the beginning of the year. But now he has shown up and proved that he can play well, and be a force up top with Donavon. Not as good as him obviously, but can help him without screwing up. imua
     
  12. Spartacus

    Spartacus Member

    May 20, 2001
    The NO SOCCER Zone
    ching

    E komo mai i ka Big Soccer! We all had our doubts about Ching (and some still do) but he seems to be adjusting very well. He's showing himself to be a great presence in the air, something we really missed last year. He still needs to improve his finishing with the ball at his feet -- he missed a couple opportunities that he really must finish. But the chemistry between Ching, Donovan, and Mullan is improving game by game.
     
  13. sonofapitch

    sonofapitch New Member

    Feb 11, 2002
    Novato, CA
    ching

    I sure like what I'm seeing from Brian Ching and from all accounts I've heard, Landon likes working with Ching, too.

    I think he's going to work out well for us over the long haul but I share your desire for him to be just a step quicker to some of those balls. The one Landon side-hoofed in front of the net to him today got me airborne off of my sofa when the keeper smothered it before Ching could get there. I thought he was going to slide that one under Brown.
     
  14. living_ded_boy

    living_ded_boy New Member

    May 24, 2001
    Pleasanton, Ca
    ching

    Donovan is figuring Ching out but not the other way around. Ching got a goal because #1. Brian Mullan finally put a cross on the money and #2. Landon Donovan continues to draw attention away from Ching. The guy is not that good.
     
  15. chaching

    chaching New Member

    May 3, 2003
    hawaii
    ching

    i personally think ching is an excellent player. he does have someone hard to play with attention wise. he is playing with one of the best players in the u.s. he has had goals and has been part of other goals. they were 1. in the first couple seconds of that first game. 2. was the one pushed down in the box to allow donovan to score on the p.k. 3. went diving for the ball at the front post w/ llamosa and went off llamosa's head 4. was in the right place at the right time and beat his man to knock a header in the goal in this game against ne. he has had to do with some of the goals this is year. he isn't to bad of a player after all.
     
  16. jeff_adams

    jeff_adams Member+

    Dec 16, 1999
    Monterey, Ca
    Brian is playing better then I think most Quake fans expected. The bigger test will be how he does when Landon is gone for the National Team. Can he still be effective?

    Also, he seems to get "punished" rather easily. I've seen the trainer have to come out on the field in every game he plays. He has got to expect he'll see elbows in his ear and knees in his back. Teams are going to beat on him to see if he can take it. He might need to develop a little nastiness to take care of himself. Carlos Ruiz takes a lot of punishment, but believe me, he dishes out his share....
     
  17. Toffees_rule

    Toffees_rule New Member

    Feb 11, 2000
    SFSU
    If Ching plays with Alvarez up top during the Gold Cup and Confeferations Cup then I think we can still be as productive as needed.

    On the other hand, if he's playing with Mullan up top, I doubt, at least initially, defenses will be ordered to take 'special care' to watch Mullan, thereby reducing the more obvious threat of Ching... that could end up working in our favour mind you as well...

    And think about this, maybe it is excellent that the quakes are off to this good a start, should we encounter problems when Donovan is away on NAT duty we'll have a sufficently decent record built up in the early part of the season so as to at least maintain a look at a decent playoff spot...e.g. the #2-3 spot in the west versus #4-5.
     
  18. BlueMeanie

    BlueMeanie New Member

    Apr 1, 2002
    EastSIIIIDE
    Merged the last couple threads about dude.

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  19. Albany58

    Albany58 Member+

    Sep 14, 1999
    Concord, CA USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We need some kind of Ching chant in Hawaiian or Hawaiian pidgin. "Ching-a-locka, Ching-a-locka, boom, boom, boom" won't do it. Where is Spartacus, our Dictionary-of-the-Islands authority? Bra?
    I can supply swear words in Korean for LA's Bo, but good cheers for Ching in Hawaiian--I'm lost.
     
  20. IBleedTeal

    IBleedTeal Member+

    Jun 2, 2001
    Yves Fiat
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Official Brian Ching thread...

    I second LDB's opinion that Ching isn't all that good. He should have had 3 last night. I don't credit him for the Llamosa goal, and he had a left footed sitter in the first half and that pretty Donovan chip after his goal in the second half. The first one he shanked completely wide, and the second one Brown smothered. Sure the guy is alright in the air, but hes not doing much of anything on the ground. Holds the ball too long and doesn't have any kind of vision of the field.
     
  21. sj_quakes_fan

    sj_quakes_fan Member

    May 18, 2001
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I believe you've got it right. I think this is Ching's role. And there's no way anyone can deny that he's done this and done it well.

    Like everyone's said, he's great in the air. And that's wonderful to see. He's also great at getting himself in position to score or at least have some sort of effect on critical plays.

    However, I remain a bit umimpressed with him. He CAN NOT play with his feet! I prefer forwards who are able to be more creative than simply being in the right spot at the right time. I'd like to see him have some better footwork and make some more creative plays rather than simply making sure his head is in the right place.

    I'm enjoying watching him play for the role he seems to be given. But any time he has the ball at his feet, I don't hold much hope that he'll do much with it. :(
     
  22. Spartacus

    Spartacus Member

    May 20, 2001
    The NO SOCCER Zone
    Official Brian Ching thread...

    Ching's home town of Haleiwa would make a decent chant.

    HA-LAY-EE-VAH
    clap-clap-clapclapclap
    HA-LAY-EE-VAH
    clap-clap-clapclapclap

    If you think of anything else you might like to have translated into a Casbah chant let me know and I'll bring my dictionary to a Club Quake pre-gamer.

    I'm still trying to talk the front office into doing a Hawaiian night if Ching continues this level of play.
     
  23. Spartacus

    Spartacus Member

    May 20, 2001
    The NO SOCCER Zone
    Official Brian Ching thread...

    Think of it this way...he's been paired with Landon for what...about 6 weeks? He's just not used to the quality of service he's getting. Landon's chip was brilliant. Was he expecting it? Maybe not, and that's why he was a half-step behind it. It's a long season...and eventually he'll be expecting it and even anticipate.

    But granted, he's missed a few sitters that a quailty finisher should put away.
     
  24. Fah Que

    Fah Que Member

    Sep 29, 2000
    LA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Re: Official Brian Ching thread...

    You can say ching isn't that good for any other reason but your argument is rubbish. There isn't any strikers in the universe who can convert all his chances. A lot of so called "world class" strikers don't even convert half of their good chances.
     
  25. Albany58

    Albany58 Member+

    Sep 14, 1999
    Concord, CA USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I throw my cards in with Fah Que and Spartacus. He's only been here a few weeks and Donovan says he likes working with him. He must be teachable. If Llamosa hadn't been there defending against Ching, Ching might have put it in rather than Llamosa. I've always liked Llamosa. :)
     

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