Yeah. I'm looking forward to this. If Convey does well, Frank will look like even more of an idiot than he already does. 1, 2, 3 ... PUKE! GO QUAKES!!!! FIRE FRANK!! - Mark
Why did we get rid of Convey again? He was our most talented player. Sort of disappeared from the line up last year for no clear reason.
Because he was a prima donna who bitched in the papers when he wasn't satisfied with his playing time, or on those occasions when he was asked to play a position other than his preferred one for the sake of the team. Talented, no doubt. He always came across as a high maintenance pain in the butt as well. Some of the worst body language on the team. Not sorry that he's gone. Can't wait to get this season going!!!
This, of course, is the Frank and JD point of view. Convey for his part did not go to the papers until near the end of the season, long after he was permanently benched. Whether or not he was a prima donna in practice, we just don't know. He certainly said the right things in interviews when Frank first moved him to left back, so that Ramiro could play left mid terribly. If Convey turns out to be a prima donna with the Wiz, then we'll know that he was probably a prima donna with us. If on the other hand, he's a model teammate, we'll have to wonder, yeah? GO QUAKES!!!! - Mark
I know for certain he was a prima donna not only in practice, but always. They did well to get rid of him and his salary once and for all.
Wow, so you had a good personal relationship with Bobby, eh? We all know your personal hatred for Convey goes beyond his performance on the field, so we don't need snarky comments about what you think he was or wasn't like.
So basically he was calling out the coach for being an idiot and playing him at left back when he was obviously much better and contributed more to this team at LM. That makes him a primadona? So we can expect that if Bruce Arena puts Beckham at central defense next year and LA goes into a huge losing streak for him to just stay quiet and not say anything, eh? You guys are hilarious. The problem wasn't Convey. The problem was, and is, Frank Yallop.
If I call you an idiot, does it make it so? Convey was unhappy with Frank's decision to deploy him at left back, and made that apparent. I don't think that Frank's decision to play him there makes him an idiot. He saw that as the best solution at the time. Ultimately he saw Morrow at LB and Dawkins at LM as an even better solution. We move on. Prior to his great game in the playoffs vs NYRB, I saw him react terribly when one of his teammates didn't get him the ball exactly when he wanted it, and where. Weak sauce.
The word I got from many at the FO was that he was considered a prima donna, and when he first started with us, there was lots of talk about locker room problems. As for talent: the image that comes to mind is the game after the Bradley-Klinsmann transition, when he raced around the field randomly all night, supposedly to get the attention of the new coach. I haven't heard that it's working, so maybe he isn't that talented? Frank doesn't know how to get the best out of most of his squad, but that is a separate issue.
He's pretty much developed an issue with every coach he's played for. Thus it's pretty obvious where the problem lies. Yallop is well-liked across the board by players--he has problems but that's not one of them.
No. If I do an idiotic thing, then it makes it so. Along with the multitude of his failings at the head coach position over the past 4 years, I do. ...which makes him an idiot. He's supposed to be a professional coach, not this high school mentality line-up switching. You know what would have been an even better solution? Morrow at LB, Dawkins at CAM, Convey at LM. I didn't know that pushing your teammates to play better is a bad thing. Now I know.
First of all, yes I do know people who he played with and who knew him personally but besides that, who said I ever "hated him"? Your words seem a little strong as I never in my entire life had "hatred" for anyone. I'm strictly talking about Convey, the player and in terms of his production of play on the pitch, attitude in the dressing room and most importantly towards his teammates and what his coaches wanted or asked him to do. I mean seriously, he is gone and is never coming back doesn't that tell you anything? Sooner or later, I suggest you come to terms with the reality and admit that he is in KC for a reason.
i believe convey was injured toward the latter part of the season, making that deployment impossible, and before convey was "injured", dawkins was out additionally, negative reaction toward your teammates by yelling at them, or having a little hissy fit won't bring out their best, and is not leadership at all apparently you were a fan of convey's style and i was not....fair enough, but i won't be converted
Convey seems to be wanting to dump a bit more on the Bay Area and complain about not being able to afford to pay his rent. He also indirectly gets some digs in on Yallop, by saying how good a coach Vermes is (after playing for him for one whole month). Link to the original article is here Please Bobby - you made over $330k and you were coaching soccer teams to make your rent? What a crock! And you've played for Vermes for one month in preseason, and you can already tell he'd be great as the National team coach? Sounds like you're just trying to make a point that you didn't think Yallop was a good coach. I was a fan of Convey while he was here, until his crap late last year. I think it was ridiculous for him to go public and trash the Quakes coaches and front office. Then he started to make excuses and play for sympathy by talking about how his wife was going through personal things and so he couldn't concentrate on soccer. And now his story is that he couldn't concentrate because he didn't make enough money to pay rent....what's next? I haven't posted this because I didn't want to rip on the guy, but his act is getting tired. Here's what I heard from a friend who knew two players from the team last year (one player is now gone, one is still with the team. Unfortunately my friend also moved, so I don't get the inside scoop anymore) - Convey was a total primadonna and not really liked that much by the other guys. The thing with Bobby's wife and his sob story he told the press late last season was hugely exaggerated by Convey. There was an issue that she went through, but it was mostly in the offseason, and the team (other players and FO) totally supported him through it. But to hear Bobby, nobody cared and it was a major challenge for him to focus on playing. Then, when Bobby didn't start later in the year and didn't go into the game from the bench, he got upset and told the other players that he was "going to be injured so that he couldn't make the next road trip just to sit on the bench". Sure enough, a couple of practices later, he complains of some kind of injury, and says he can't practice, so later in the week he doesn't make the trip with the team because he says he's still hurt. He "stayed hurt" for a couple of weeks, and didn't go to practices or anything. Then, all of a sudden a couple of weeks later, he shows up to practice and tells Yallop he's fine and he wants to start the next game. That doesn't happen, and Convey goes public with his tirade against Yallop and the team. This guy just reeks of "me, me, me". He has talent, and he may do well with Kansas City, but I'm glad that Yallop/Doyle put their foot down and got rid of him. Say what you will about Yallop and Doyle, but they kept classy through the whole situation, even after Convey went public to the press. They could have told people about Bobby not being a team player, coming up with a phantom injury, etc, but they didn't.
Bobbie is a lone wolf. May be it comes from starting to play professionally at 16. After the first year with the Quakes, he was at the season ending party (D&Bs). He was one of the few players who didn't interact much with the fans and even with his fellow teammates. He mostly spoke with his wife and one our player and his signification other (don't remember the player). I'm not surprised that Bobbie likes KC better. New stadium and a team that was better last year. Plus, closer to his boyhood home. Frankly, I don't really care. I wasn't a big fan of his before the Quakes and my feeling didn't change when he was hear...
Had a similar experience at an event with the team as well - tried to talk to him and his wife, but they just ignored us. Honestly, I'm not surprised to hear these things about him and what went down last year. Looking back in this thread, I remember back in October I was surprised how many Quakes fans took Bobby at his word when he went public with his complaints about the team. They just didn't ring true, for the most part, or at best, were only half-truths. For example, he said the team asked him to take a "75% pay cut" to sign for 2012 - that would mean that they asked him to sign for under $80k. Come on, there's no way the team offered him that little. I do believe they asked him to take a paycut, they probably offered him closer to $175-200k, instead of the $336k he was making. That was probably insulting in his mind given his opinion of himself, in spite of his relatively poor play last year. But either his math skills are off, or he just outright lied. He also talked about how everyone came into preseason excited after how last year ended, but then went on to say how he couldn't focus on soccer because of the problems with his wife in preseason. Well, which is it - did he come in excited or was he distracted? He tried to blame the team for not treating him with respect, but from the post above it sounds like he didn't treat the team with respect. It goes both ways. Pretty much any time an athlete comes out with such a onesided story you can bet it's only half of the story, and that appears to be the case here. You could see when he was convinced he should have been called into the USMNT but the only reason (in his mind) that he wasn't was because the coaches hated him. This was BEFORE Convey had a very good 2010 year, when Bobby thought he should have been getting called in during 2009 and early 2010.
The guys are professional and too classy to talk s**t, but eyes do roll when Convey is mentioned. There was talk last year from other observers that the dude was a straight-up head case. Not sure about that, but definitely socially awkward. No surprise about the smacktalk about Yallop. Convey's not a left back.
"This is a great support system here. It's an amazing stadium. We have everything we need in place for us to win. It was tough to focus on playing when you have to coach kids in the afternoon to make rent. I feel great here." well then, there will be no excuses when he sucks for KC and plays Nancy-boy again! As for the 'coaching kids' bit, my friend's son's team was one of those lucky teams that got convey and Wondo to come out- as much for PR as anything and according to him, Convey stood off to the side with his hoodie drawn tight and his phone to his face the whole time. Wondo unfortunately didn't do much either, but he at least put the kids thru shooting drills. Convey is a total prima Donna and you can bet Vermes won't put up with his shit for long either. There's a very good reason he's not been called into the US team since '06 and it's because he's a whiner and plays only for himself.
Unless he was high-rolling in some downtown loft or mansion in the hills, I don't see how he would have had a problem with rent. Now, some of the guys making 40k? That's a different story. I make more than that and I can't imagine having to live in Silicon Valley on that much. Our guys don't need to be worrying about rent, they need to be worrying about their game, with as little distraction as possible. I think Convey got spoiled with his taste of life as a footballer in Europe.. Quite different level between MLS and EPL.. If he was complaining about life in the Bay Area, it won't be long before he's complaining about KC. I mean... It's KC! I still wager he will have a good year. A shame he was wasted here by our inept coach.
I agree, he makes $330k and he complains about rent being too high? The guy is the biggest whiner I've ever heard. I mean seriously, what about all the money he has made since he was 16 years old when he turned pro? You mean to tell me he squandered it all? What a joke!
all the Convey haters are assuming that Convey meant himself. IMO, I think Convey was referring to the group of players that are making peanuts & have to coach as a 2nd job to make ends meet. Basically, it is an example of what some players have to do to play in the Bay Area. Drink it! can we move on now!?