The Official 2025 MLS SuperDraft thread (Friday, 12/20/24) [R]

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  1. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If that's the case name the five late rounders from the 2023 draft who are better than the five first rounders listed below lol
     
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  2. Replikait

    Replikait Member+

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    Feb 25, 2014
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well thats why i threw in "usually" lmao

    And the 2023 MLS Draft was god awful.
     
  3. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Those are five guys who would be top three players for the Quakes
     
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  4. Replikait

    Replikait Member+

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    The bar isn't very high.
     
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  5. xbhaskarx

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    NorCal
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    United States
    #30 xbhaskarx, Oct 17, 2024
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2024






    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GaHFfpDWwAA1Ty8.jpg

    If Sam Bassett is anywhere close to his brother Cole let's draft him

    Emil Jaaskelainen second, Alex Harris fourth (both mentioned on the previous page)

    Oh no there's a Stanford player ninth so that's who we're drafting
     
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  6. Replikait

    Replikait Member+

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    Feb 25, 2014
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    United States
    Would it surprise anyone if we didn't take one top 10 guy?
     
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  7. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
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    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It says "Rapids academy product" so I would assume they have homegrown rights, no?
     
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  8. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

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    NorCal
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Plenty of guys come through some MLS academy and then get drafted because they didn't sign a homegrown deal.
     
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  9. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Are the Rapids not going to offer a homegrown deal to the top-rated college player?
     
  10. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
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    How many "Quakes academy products" have gone on to fame and fortune for other teams? ;)
     
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  11. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

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    #36 ThreeApples, Oct 18, 2024
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    None who were let go in the way being suggested, simply passing on them and letting them go into the draft pool. If there's information showing that the Rapids don't have homegrown rights in this case, I'd love to see it.
     
  12. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
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    They may offer some borderline-insulting deal like I suppose the Quakes have done on occasion...
     
  13. xbhaskarx

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    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  14. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Keeper fail. It's not like he was chipped. All he had to do was tip it over the bar.
     
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  15. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
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    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I just realized Bruce Arena will be doing the drafting not the usual Quakes brain trust...

    The Revs first round draft picks from 2019 - 2023:

    2019: #9 Tajon Buchanan (GA, CanMNT winger the Revs sold for $7 million now with Inter Milan)
    2020: #6 Henry Kessler (GA, center back who is a MLS regular with 2 USMNT caps)
    2021: #22 Edward Kizza (forward in USL)
    2022: #24 Jacob Jackson (goalkeeper now with the Quakes)
    2023: #4 Joshua Bolma (GA, central midfielder, has mostly played in MLSNP)

    Out of five first round draft picks that's one home run, one other very solid hit, another that's at least making MLS rosters... and then one bust, and one that's too early to call. Buchanan and Kessler were both key pieces of the 2021 Revs team that won Supporters Shield and set the MLS points record.

    So we can assume that with the #2 pick Arena will be looking at younger guys with high upside that are Generation Adidas signings, at any position, who are probably better bets to pan out than whatever Stanford pick the Quakes were going to select before they hired him.

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  16. bostero24

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    Jun 27, 2008
    sf
  17. xbhaskarx

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  18. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
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    Generation Adidas, Project 40, all part of the bullshit smokescreen thrown up by Sunil Gulati as part of his "Project 2010". Remember how well that turned out? :rolleyes:
     
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  19. xbhaskarx

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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    NorCal
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What does any of that even mean, Generation Adidas has certainly been successful, plenty of good MLS players were GA draft picks, they certainly have a much higher success rate than non-GA draft picks.... in this age if you're staying in college soccer for all four years your odds of being a difference maker at the MLS level are fairly low.

    Another name: Dean Boltz (potential GA)

    https://www.givemesport.com/mls-transfer-notebook-union-closing-in-on-new-head-coach/

    The 2025 MLS SuperDraft, for collegiate players entering the professional game, will take place on December 20. The combine happens next week with the draft’s top talent.

    One player to keep an eye on is Wisconsin Badgers freshman forward Dean Boltz. Sources say he’s in the mix for a potential Generation adidas (GA) contract, given by MLS to each year’s top potential draft picks.

    Boltz had 10 goals and four assists in 15 matches and was named to the Top Drawer Soccer Best XI Freshman Team.

     
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  20. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Here's another guy who was pretty good as a freshman. This has to be one of the 1st college games he played.

     
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  21. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
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    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So Dylan Borso top rated player from his birth year to enter college soccer, Dean Boltz #1 freshman according to Top Drawer Soccer, Tommy Thompson "pretty good as a freshman"... is there a point you're attempting to make here or are you just commenting to comment?
     
  22. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    #49 JazzyJ, Dec 4, 2024
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    TT was the best player on his team and one the best freshmen in college soccer in 2013, his only year in college soccer (and Big 10 Freshman of the Year). So, yeah "JUST. A. FRESHMAN.!!!!" It's not like we haven't seen it before and also it's not necessarily a predictor of greatness. That's the "point I'm attempting to make".
     
  23. xbhaskarx

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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #50 xbhaskarx, Dec 4, 2024
    Last edited: Dec 4, 2024
    What does a sample size of one matter, who cares about Tommy Thompson??
    And how many top soccer programs were even in the Big 10 in 2013?

    Even then plenty of guys have been named Big 10 Freshman of the Year and then gone on to have successful MLS careers: Dema Kovalenko, Nick Garcia, Lee Nguyen, Will Bruin, Eriq Zavaleta, Jack Maher, Aidan Morris, etc.

    In any case I would guess the success rate for "best freshman in the country" is quite a bit higher than "best freshman in the Big 10" because the latter is a subset of the former...

    Wake Forest may not be in the Big 10 (even within the Big 10 I would guess Maryland has produced more MLS players than Indiana, and so has UCLA which wasn't in the conference back when TT was winning freshman of the year) but they have produced plenty of soccer talent in recent years: Ike Opara, Jack Harrison, Mark McKenzie, Brandon Servania, Omir Fernandez, Alistair Johnston, etc.
     

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