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  1. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
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    May 18, 1999
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    GO SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES!!! :cool:


    -G
     
  2. Goodsport

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    May 18, 1999
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    Either Jared Shawlee or Jed Mettee mentioned at the November 5th County Supervisors meeting that the Earthquakes could’ve already built the training facility and 3-4 training fields for their own use on land closer to the stadium that they already own but decided to first pursue the Fairgrounds plan to also include public fields, and may just do so if today’s vote went south. :eek:

    Despite Joe Simitian suggesting having the next such County vote by no later than the end of March, Cindy Chavez let it be known that the Earthquakes could simply “walk away” from working with them altogether and urged a final decision be made by December or January, and even asked the Earthquakes to let them know by January if they’re even willing to continue potentially working together.

    GO SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES!!! :(


    -G
     
  3. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    The Quakes should be willing to walk away, and make that clear to the county. That's how you negotiate.
     
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  4. Goodsport

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    Absolutely.

    I was just surprised (pleasantly surprised, but surprised nonetheless) to hear that the Earthquakes had and still have that alternate option since I hadn’t heard that before. :)

    GO SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES!!! :(


    -G
     
  5. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    It's the ol' "parallel paths". Not sure if they are serious about it, but I would hope so.
     
  6. xbhaskarx

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    Feb 13, 2010
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    why
     
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  7. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Kind of a slow offseason, and they probably can't announce Il Bruce yet.
     
  8. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
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    May 18, 1999
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    United States
  9. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
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    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States



    GO SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES!!! :(


    -G
     
  10. Quakes05

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    Oct 1, 2005
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    This was always going to be tough, Simitian of course is right about Fisher. Worst of the owners, nightmare for Quakes and A’s fans everywhere. The County was always going to be tough to deal with, that’s their last big parcel and they’ve been going around and around on how to best use it, for decades.
    Fisher makes ridiculous offers, drags the process out forever, meanwhile we’re no closer to a facility.
    Oh but they could use land by PPP! Brody is right, why hasn’t that been the plan all along??
    Delay tactics and his reluctance to invest in a competitive product on full display, again.
    This was never going to get done at the fairgrounds.
     
  11. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

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    Feb 28, 2004
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    You didn't watch the entire 2.5 hour Board of Supervisors meeting, did you? After all grandstanding, even Simitian voted to keep dealing with the (supposed) devil.

    The deal is going to get done at the Fairgrounds -- unless Fisher decides he's had enough of being (unlawfully) attacked for being a Republican.
     
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  12. don gagliardi

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    Feb 28, 2004
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    The irony is that if Fisher decides to build the training facility next to the stadium, local youth soccer players will have lost four recreational fields and Quakes fans will have lost a tailgate area.

    Lose, lose: credit to Joe Simitian.
     
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  13. Quakes05

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    Oct 1, 2005
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    #338 Quakes05, Nov 8, 2024
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    I didn’t watch the whole 2.5 hours but I’ll be very surprised if it gets done there. And why, if there’s an option to put it next to PPP, would they want to build it way over there anyway??
    I expect delay after delay and nothing to get done. Fisher had had this team since 2008 and still hasn’t figured it out.
     
  14. Quakes05

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    Oct 1, 2005
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    Credit goes to Fisher. Joe Simitian is right to raise concerns about Fisher’s stewardship of his two (now one) Bay Area teams. He’s not a man who can be trusted and only cares about self enrichment.
     
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  15. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

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    Dude -- don't post on a subject you have not done basic research. Watch the whole meeting, and listen to what I am saying (not to mention everyone in the soccer community who spoke). Because I was there, sat through the whole thing, and I have followed this subject closely for years.

    Two reasons (among others) to put the fields at the Fairgrounds: (1) saves the tailgate lot; and (2) creates a soccer complex that benefits the entire community and become a focal point for soccer as a sport, transcending the narrow interest of the professional men's team.

    Anyone seeking to kill this deal is not a fan of Bay Area soccer.

    And, as I said, the reason for optimism is that the County Supervisors could have killed the allegedly horrible bad faith proposal from a Republican, but they voted unanimously to keep considering it. Even the dude from Palo Alto who won't be there anymore and had nothing to lose by saying, "no." He was grandstanding and has no actual interest in derailing what is a great deal for the community -- not just John Fisher.
     
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  16. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

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    Feb 28, 2004
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    Thankfully, Simitian's political career is over. He was this close to going to Congress. Hit the road, Joe.
     
  17. Quakes05

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    Oct 1, 2005
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    Personally, I don’t care about tailgating and I only care about our pro men’s team. This would be an academy facility, right next to PPP…makes all the sense in the world.

    I never thought putting this facility way over there made much sense and I knew from having worked with the County over much of my career that we’d still be sitting here years later trying to figure out if there was a path forward that worked for both parties.

    Maybe it still gets done, I hope so, for you and those who’d like to see more public fields over there and love tailgating…

    …I’d rather see it built by PPP. I don’t expect to see either.
     
  18. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Gray areas, Q5, gray areas. He was an awful owner for the A's obviously. For the Quakes, he is one of the two pro sports team owners in the history of SJ, I believe, to bring a team to San Jose and build a stadium for it.
     
  19. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
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    once you suggest he’s been anything less than an awful owner for the quakes too, you discredit yourself entirely and lose credibility with me, instantly.
     
  20. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    I just gave you a big reason why I don't think he's been an awful sports owner for the community, and you haven't refuted it.
     
  21. Quakes05

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    Oct 1, 2005
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    I’ve been refuting it for years. If you still somehow believe he’s been a good owner in San Jose, I don’t know what to tell you.
     
  22. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    I'm asking you to refute the specific point I made. Here, I'll give it to you again:

    He is one of the two pro sports team owners in the history of SJ, I believe, to bring a team to San Jose and build a stadium for it.

    If you are a member of the political community here in SJ, it would be hard to look at Fish's investment in the area and not see it as a positive.

    Besides, even if you think Fish has been a bad owner for the Quakes, here he is trying to do something that would make him a better owner - building a proper training facility for the team and the academy, and we are opposed to it because he's bad owner? See the problem with that logic?
    It's like "I don't like JazzyJ because he doesn't pay off his debts. OK, Q5, here's the money to pay off part of my debt. No, I'm not going to take it because you never pay off any of your debt!"

    You have been asking when the Quakes are going to build the thing. Now they're trying to push it thru the local govt and you're against it now? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
  23. Quakes05

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    #348 Quakes05, Nov 8, 2024
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    yeah you’re far far more impressed with John Fisher and what he’s done (and what he’s trying to do) in San Jose, than me.

    John Fisher hasn’t shown me that he’s the slightest bit interested in building a proud, competitive team in SJ.

    Quite the opposite, his work here looks like nothing more than a personal money grab off the backs of our soccer loving community.

    We’ve never agreed on this over all these years so it’s not at all surprising that you still don’t get it.
     
  24. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    I don’t know maybe it’s just me but if you are a SJ community leader the fact that someone brought a pro sports franchise to SJ, built a stadium for it, generates tax revenue, and is active in the community should be seen as a net positive. This isn’t actuality that hard.
     
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  25. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
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    funny, that’s what I think about your inability to see that Fisher has been an awful owner for our team. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     

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