The Official 2024 Copa América thread [R]

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  1. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The US is the first Copa America host to be eliminated in the group stage.

    Berhalter’s record this cycle is 7 wins 1 draw 6 losses...



    "We set out on a mission four years ago to change the way the world views American soccer. And now our motto is to change soccer in America forever."

    "It’s really the work we can do in the next three years to build a group that when we go into the World Cup we’re confident that we can beat the elite of international soccer, because that’s what it’s going to take to do what we’re talking about doing,” Berhalter said. “If we want to go to rounds that we’ve never been before, it’s going to be: We have to beat those teams and use the next three years to build the team up, to gain experiences so that we’re confident that we can actually do that. And when we say change soccer in America forever, for me it’s both on the field and off the field."​
     
  2. Kaitlyn

    Kaitlyn Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 25, 2014
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Disgraceful. This ref needs to be banned by FIFA immediately.

     
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  3. staudio

    staudio Member+

    Mar 7, 2008
    Marin
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just spent some time over that the Nat's board......somewhat entertaining.

    And referring to the ref not shaking Pulisic's hand, thought I read that Pulisic went up to the refs and said "why are you not over there celebrating with Uruguay"? That might of been part of it.

    And that was a disgraceful performance from that ref......he was way in over his head.
     
  4. jeff_adams

    jeff_adams Member+

    Dec 16, 1999
    Monterey, Ca
    If Berhalter goes Luchi is available
     
  5. Beerking

    Beerking Member+

    Nov 14, 2000
    Humboldt County
    Some of the worst officiating I've ever seen in my lifetime, a real horror show. He was either incompetent or bought, there's no other options.
     
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  6. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Gregg Berhalter: ‘We did not perform up to expectations at all’

    by Paul Kennedy

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    • The USMNT failed to advance out of the group stage of a major tournament at which it participated with its “A” team for the first since the 2006 World Cup in Germany.

    USMNT (group-stage exits):
    1950
    World Cup (1 win, 2 losses)
    1990
    World Cup (3 losses)
    1993
    Copa America (1 tie, 2 losses)
    1998
    World Cup (3 losses)
    2003
    Confederations Cup (1 tie, 2 losses)
    2006
    World Cup (1 tie, 2 losses)
    2007
    *Copa America (3 losses)
    2024
    Copa America (1 win, 2 losses)
    *Sent “B” team.


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  7. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    That scene where he's running down the field holding up a yellow card cheering on the Uruguayan attack as US defenders look on in shock kind of tells it all.
     
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  8. nivla

    nivla Member+

    Jan 17, 2003
    Milpitas
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    As SJ fans, we should be pretty familiar with what we saw in that US game.

    Toothless CF
    Only one effective attacker on the wing
    Midfielder keeps passing to the other team
    Lack of idea
    Slow to second balls
    Dubious calls
     
  9. SoccerMan94043

    SoccerMan94043 Member+

    May 29, 2003
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That game was insane... the pace and aggressiveness. I thought we did pretty well outside of finishing. Now the Panama game was something else entirely.
     
  10. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    That was the most familiar part for me, thinking back on the Quakes 1st half against LAG and several other games. Well we’re “pretty well” and creating chances but can’t finish anything. Also didn’t help that Balogun had to go out. His pace was causing Uruguay a lot of problems and they were grabbing and hacking him. Pepi really didn’t offer anything.
     
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  11. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  12. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    There seems to be a lot of yellow jerseys at Levi’s but they have the Colombian emblem on the lapel.

    Looks like there are more Colombian than Brazilian fans.
     
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  13. chris thebassplayer

    Feb 18, 2014
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    #113 chris thebassplayer, Jul 2, 2024
    Last edited: Jul 2, 2024
    Our talent is getting better, but we still have to choose players that can withstand the mental pressure for 90 minutes. Players that no matter how fast or talented they are, they still have to be mentally tough...that is the primary criterion...as we saw with Dest in the previous tourney and Weah, it just takes an supremely idiotic moment to blow the game and potentially blow the whole f*cking tourney...which Weah did to the Copa. We should of had 6 points after Panama and punched our ticket. Uruguay is a brutal team to get a result from...Imo, their D is always strong and physical. And the ref was pure shit, but we didn't want it to come down to that game.

    I'm a GB supporter, but regardless of what people think about the potential greatness of our individual players, I don't buy the golden generation hype at all. A lot of our players have holes in their games...and some are not mentally up for the challenge. the casual fan sees they play in the best leagues in the world and a few are in the top 5 performers for those clubs, but the rest are at the low end and fighting for playing time...they greatly benefit from the stronger players around them. when they come to the nats it doesn't look all that great. So Imo, the tactics GB wants to play are still a bridge too far for the roster...they can't pull it off. which leads to my peeve with GB, he needs to be a little more pragmatic, not old school Arena or BB, but just make it a bit more conservative to fit the actual collective talent the US currently has. Marsch has been very outspoken about it, but he has a point. Play to the level you can actually accomplish.

    I don't think GB will adjust his system and the roster he selected (which is another issue entirely..Wright, Moore?) can't consistently string enough passes together in the attack to scare anybody. Something has to give and I think GB will be gone. And I think it has more to do with the teams inability to play his tactics more than Weah absolutely ruining this tourney for him...but it could be a blessing in disguise for the nats.
     
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  14. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
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  15. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    #115 JazzyJ, Jul 3, 2024
    Last edited: Jul 3, 2024
    It's a game of inches or "moments". The US played reasonably well against Bolivia and Uruguay (and the Balugon injury was unlucky - he was causing Uruguay lots of problems). The Panama game was really about Weah's mistake. If they'd played objectively and consistenly poorly in the tournament, the coaching change decision is lot easier to make. But that's not really the case. I don't have a problem with how the team is set up. We're pretty committed to playing out of the back, but rarely get burned by it, and it leads to more possession and more chances. I don't think that the team is "impractical". Uruguay is a tough team and we went toe to toe, and did not resort to kickball. You're not always going to beat the top teams, strangely enough. We didn't somehow magically transform into Argentina overnight, where the expectation is that you can beat any team because you are a great team and a historically great team.
     
  16. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Almost 71k at Levi's!

    Brazil vs. Colombia final score, result as Cafeteros win Group D thanks to draw with Selecao (msn.com)

    Maybe the Quakes can sign some more Colobians?
     
  17. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
  18. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With our luck, the FO would sign Juan Valdez.
     
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  19. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Tressor Moreno would be a stud on today's Quakes team.
     
  20. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    He could not or would not run for us. Other than that he was fine!
     
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  21. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    I think they may have exaggerated the yellow line a bit but this is the same idea I posted earlier. Not convinced this is not offside.

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  22. Kaitlyn

    Kaitlyn Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 25, 2014
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's trying to run...

    [​IMG]
     
  23. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States




     
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  24. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    seems bad
     
  25. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Interesting but I don’t really see that with the eye test. The US generally presses and wins the ball a good amount. Biggest problem is converting final 3rd possession into chances and goals.
     

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