The Official 2015 Race to the Wooden Spoon

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  1. tigersoccer2005

    tigersoccer2005 Member+

    Dec 1, 2003
    North Bergen, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1 tigersoccer2005, Mar 6, 2015
    Last edited: Mar 6, 2015
    I just love it!! MLS Kick-Off Weekend is almost here and I just cant wait! In a matter of hours we will begin the long and infamous journey that will be Wooden Spoon 2015!! :laugh:

    Although it is too early to say who will win the "honors" with 100% certainty---there have to be some favorites going into the season.

    My pick is --unfortunately--my own team NYRB. A team that is certainly not a stranger to the Spoon. I believe that the new management team of Curtis and Marsch have introduced too many changes all at once and that it will take a long time for this team to come together --if indeed it ever does. Apparently no one at Red Bull has ever heard the old phrase "if it ain't broke don't fix it." Well fix they did--this team has Curtis's and Marsch's fingerprints all over it. As I think past Spoon analysis has shown, you don't get anywhere in this league without a good defense and without goals and Red Bull, unfortunately, dismantled their defense and replaced it with nobodies and we have only one striker up front. The Goal Differences for this club might be in record setting negative territory halfway through the season. We'll see...

    Anybody else have Wooden Spoon faves as we enter MLS Kick-Off?

    Unfortunately we have lost perennial Spoon Faves Chivas USA this year--moment of silence :(
    Can Montreal Impact repeat as Wooden Spoon winners in 2015?

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    IT'S ALL ABOUT SPOON, BABY!!! :D
     
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  2. SoccerPrime

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    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Stacked Western conference might produce a "winner" there. Can Colorado turn it around in time? San Jose?
     
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  3. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    This season's race to the bottom is going to be a good one.
     
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  4. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    Welcome back!!

    Colorado Rapids are my favourites for now... ;)
     
  5. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    Or Vancouver Whitecaps staying put in 20th place from the beginning until the end? :p

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  6. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    #6 henryo, Mar 6, 2015
    Last edited: Mar 6, 2015
    By the way, being the arch rivals, Toronto FC may "award" the 2014 Wooden Spoon to Montreal Impact, during either (or both) of their home games below: :p

    Which date(s) works best? ;)

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  7. henryo

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    Jun 26, 2007
  8. tigersoccer2005

    tigersoccer2005 Member+

    Dec 1, 2003
    North Bergen, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Took the time to compose this Wooden Spoon Chart by year--it also takes note of records set in the comments.
     

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  9. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    My random selection on the DC United board predicted Philly would win the WS.

    I thought it was a pretty sensible pick, random ranking or not.
     
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  10. tigersoccer2005

    tigersoccer2005 Member+

    Dec 1, 2003
    North Bergen, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not sure if I may have made a mistake---The San Jose Clash became the San Jose Earthquakes but then moved to Houston and became the Dynamo in 2006, however by order of Garber the records and stats of the Quakes were left in San Jose when they moved to Houston. Then the Quakes name and records were "unfrozen" when they came back in 2008.
    So perhaps the Quakes could actually be the first team to reach 3 spoons? I know that Quakes records can sometimes be confusing and controversial among fandom...
     
  11. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    I think Portland will challenge at the start of the year but won't be able to stay in the hunt for the long haul.

    For the long haul, my money is on Colorado. The Red Bulls are tempting but the East is not the West.
     
  12. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    DC United Wooden Spoons - 2002, 2010, 2013
     
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  13. tigersoccer2005

    tigersoccer2005 Member+

    Dec 1, 2003
    North Bergen, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes of course i know DC has won it 3 times and it is reflected in the chart--however San Jose Clash 96,
    San Jose Earthquakes 2000, San Jose Earthquakes 2008
    Fans cant have it both ways--you cant leave the 2 MLS Cups and 1 SS in San Jose after the move to houston, but somehow say that the Spoons don't count because of the move.
     
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  14. tigersoccer2005

    tigersoccer2005 Member+

    Dec 1, 2003
    North Bergen, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Revised Spoon Chart
     

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  15. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Who says the old Wooden Spoons don't count?
     
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  16. tigersoccer2005

    tigersoccer2005 Member+

    Dec 1, 2003
    North Bergen, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  17. Neuwerld

    Neuwerld Member+

    Oct 15, 2007
    California
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Yeah, I don't think I've ever heard a Quakes fan claim that those old Spoons don't count. It's just not something people think much about. Everyone knows 96-00 were terrible... although I'd say 08 was kinda harsh. Won the Spoon on a tie-breaker, while 09, 11, and 14 were much more disgraceful seasons that did more than enough to win a Spoon. There just happened to be even worse teams those years.
     
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  18. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    How much allocation money will a Spoon winner get for use in the 2016 season, and is it significantly different from the take of the 19th best team?

    This is a very important race.
     
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  19. revsfan603

    revsfan603 Member

    New England Revolution
    Jun 20, 2013
    New Hampshire
    Club:
    ADO Den Haag
    I'm calling it now rsl to win the spoon.
     
  20. RoyalNonesuch

    RoyalNonesuch Member+

    May 10, 2009
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Interesting call - why didn't the Revs (or anyone) beat us in the pre-season? RSL is under the radar and will surprise, albeit to the upside.
     
  21. tigersoccer2005

    tigersoccer2005 Member+

    Dec 1, 2003
    North Bergen, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #21 tigersoccer2005, Mar 6, 2015
    Last edited: Mar 6, 2015
    A different Spoon Chart I worked on today. The chart that I uploaded earlier today was Spoons won by year.
    This one is SPOONS WON BY CLUB (with included spoon percentage)

    *Given the fact that this will be the league's 20th year it is pretty amazing to see how the losing has more or less spread itself out equitably. There are only 3 teams that are repeat spooners, while the Canadian teams have suffered because basically they are still new to the league and have gotten off to a slow start. It is amazing to see that 2 charter clubs (clubs that date back to 96) have never won the Spoon at all. They are either incredibly well run organizations or they've simply been on the right side of madame luck. Whatever those guys eat for breakfast is what I'll have please....:notworthy::thumbsup:
     

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  22. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    How about the "Runners-ups"? ;)
     
  23. tigersoccer2005

    tigersoccer2005 Member+

    Dec 1, 2003
    North Bergen, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks for your support--- runners up never really entered into the equation for me. The 2 charts (spoons by year and spoons by club) I worked on today took much longer than I imagined. Perhaps at a later time?? Anyway only 2008 is of any note in my mind with the Revolution escaping winning the Spoon by the narrowest of margins.
     
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  24. Honore de Ballsac

    Oct 28, 2005
    France.
    Do you have pics of The Spoon?

    I love this so.

    Even if it might be the Quakes' spoon to bear come Oct.
     
  25. tigersoccer2005

    tigersoccer2005 Member+

    Dec 1, 2003
    North Bergen, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hi Honore,

    Thanks for keeping up with these MLS boards all the way from France!! :thumbsup:

    To answer your question: The MLS Wooden Spoon exists purely in the mind of the fans. There is no official physical trophy that is presented by either the league or the fans to the "winning team"--it is simply an end of the year stat in the final table standings. Therefore as much as I would like to, I don't have any pictures of the MLS Wooden Spoon for you. The closest we have come is the photoshopped picture of the Consolation Shield that I made up for posting on these boards. There has also been a wonderful Spoon Scudetto idea that was circulated on these boards as well. There has been talk in the past of making a physical Spoon trophy however such conversations have not, as of yet, resulted in anything concrete.

    I think you will find that despite the lack of a physical trophy, fan discussions here on Big Soccer regarding the race to the wooden spoon can be quite intense--especially as the regular season nears its end! The fans love the MLS Wooden Spoon!:)
     
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