The Off-Season "Near News" and Rumors Thread

jason1551 · Mar 27, 2004

But would he be good for us? I don't know much abouth him, but it seems that he would put the right people in power to produce a good team. At least that's my understanding of him right now. We've all seen what the actual result has been with his football team.

JoeW · Mar 27, 2004

Re: Carrieri Waived

cherno said:

Except that Carrieri had proven himself, in 2001 in half a season with Colorado he scored 5 goals and 4 assists. In 2002 when Spencer was injured for most of the season and Colorado needed someone to step up he scored 11 goals and 5 assists. Last year with Spencer back, he became more of a set up man scoring 3 goals and 8 assists. I think Knave was right in saying it's sad that a player like Carrieri can't find work in MLS in the same way that it's sad that Milton Reyes can't. These are two very good players who don't make huge money that have become casualties of a well intentioned but just a bit too restrictive cap.

Cherno
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Also useful to keep in mind that the top two rated forwards in that year's draft (Carrieri and Curtis) are now both out of MLS. And the top two forwards of the 2002 draft (Gonzales and Fahim) are both out of MLS. It does point out how difficult it is to project college seniors at forward as potential MLS performers.

GrillMaster · Mar 27, 2004

Re: Carrieri Waived

JoeW said:

Also useful to keep in mind that the top two rated forwards in that year's draft (Carrieri and Curtis) are now both out of MLS. And the top two forwards of the 2002 draft (Gonzales and Fahim) are both out of MLS. It does point out how difficult it is to project college seniors at forward as potential MLS performers.
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Joe and other fellow denizens, I think what experience has revealed over the past few seasons is that you should generally only risk a college pick on a guy who has a minimum size of at least 5'10" (Ralph, Jacqua). Consider the cases of Carrieri, Curtis, Gonazlez and Vaca (to date) and compare them to guys like Dauda Kante. Nobody would dare suggest that Kante's skills come anywhere close to the aforementioned, but his size allows him to, using a Hudson homily, like getting hit in the face with a sledgehammer.

I'm not saying that small guys can't make it in MLS, just that their odds are longer than the more physically imposing player. Given two players of equal ability, choose the guy with size. Guys like Freddy with absolutely MAD skill are, of course, outliers and shouldn't be considered in generalizations. Hundred fires and ABMOD came into the league as veterans. Armas is a physically imposing small man. Rimando -- well, I think you all know my thoughts on St. Nick -- a wonderfully instinctive keeper whose reliance on youthful reaction with become increasingly apparent with the passage of time (consider Simo a Fountain of Youth for now, however).

Size and Freddy are reasons to be well satisfied with our 2004 draft.

GM

CHICO13 · Mar 27, 2004

Re: Carrieri Waived

GrillMaster said:

Joe and other fellow denizens, I think what experience has revealed over the past few seasons is that you should generally only risk a college pick on a guy who has a minimum size of at least 5'10" (Ralph, Jacqua). Consider the cases of Carrieri, Curtis, Gonazlez and Vaca (to date) and compare them to guys like Dauda Kante. Nobody would dare suggest that Kante's skills come anywhere close to the aforementioned, but his size allows him to, using a Hudson homily, like getting hit in the face with a sledgehammer.

I'm not saying that small guys can't make it in MLS, just that their odds are longer than the more physically imposing player. Given two players of equal ability, choose the guy with size. Guys like Freddy with absolutely MAD skill are, of course, outliers and shouldn't be considered in generalizations. Hundred fires and ABMOD came into the league as veterans. Armas is a physically imposing small man. Rimando -- well, I think you all know my thoughts on St. Nick -- a wonderfully instinctive keeper whose reliance on youthful reaction with become increasingly apparent with the passage of time (consider Simo a Fountain of Youth for now, however).

Size and Freddy are reasons to be well satisfied with our 2004 draft.

GM
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It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.

Knave · Mar 28, 2004

Re: ... Moderator's Note ...

I'll probably close this thing tonight and start up the new thread. I've revised the previously discussed guidelines. That's here if you're interested. They can always be revised later but I added in the stuff about thread organization to get things started.

https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2264598#post2264598

Th4119 · Mar 28, 2004

I guess this is the best place to put this, but I hadn't noticed until today that MLS dropped overtime for this year. Interesting.

DutchFootballRulez · Mar 28, 2004

Holy lateness, Batman.

CHICO13 · Mar 28, 2004

Rumor has it that Marco Etcheverry will play a few games in the local Bolivian league this summer here in Va.

GrillMaster · Mar 28, 2004

Thamlin19 said:

I guess this is the best place to put this, but I hadn't noticed until today that MLS dropped overtime for this year. Interesting.
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not just OT is gone -- so is cheatin' bob's fourth sub

Knave · Mar 29, 2004

So long old thread. It was fun, but the season is starting soon and so your time is up ...

The new thread is right here.

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