The Obi Mikel Thread

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  1. haven

    haven New Member

    Jul 9, 2003
    Boston, MA
    Not quite yet. Bar exam in a week and a half. I'm spending 12 hours per day at the library - but then wasting my time posting on here ;). And then I'm gonna be a federal government bureaucrat ;).
     
  2. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    as it turns out I cant rep u right now anyway... damned imitation abulance chaser... *shakes fist*
     
  3. haven

    haven New Member

    Jul 9, 2003
    Boston, MA
    Tis quite alright. I actually succeed at repping someone maybe 1/10 times I try. That's the problem of only leaving the forum every now and then!
     
  4. StrikerCW

    StrikerCW Member

    Jul 10, 2001
    Perth, WA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good luck on the exam. Brush up on some International law if you can from now on so we can have someone for our Forum Lawyer, just not as cocky hopefully. ;)
     
  5. jayro75

    jayro75 Member

    Sep 8, 2004

    No rep left....... Study up hard we could use a good legal mind in here to put some of these interlopers in their place.......
     
  6. Hawki

    Hawki New Member

    May 4, 2005
    NorCal, USA
    Good Luck ... ;)
     
  7. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    That's true. But........

    This with a FIFA tribunal, which is a private entity. It is not subject to procedural issues, and is therefore, at best a type of "court of equity". I don't know the exact legal relationship between FIFA and ManUtd, but I would assume that ManUtd has foregone means to pursue legal redress in disputes that have FIFA "jurisdiction", so to speak.
    The reason I brought up Bosman*, previously, is that a case of some sort could in theory be made to an EU court. I'm just not sure on what basis it would be, since, EU doesn't hear contract disputes.
    Its very likely that the contract Mikel signed has a choice of law clause. (Almost certain, actually.) Chances are, its under English law which probably gives rise to an action there, although for an argument that the contract is invalid in the first place, you might be able to use Norwegian law. I don't know European conflicts of law issues.
    So with that said, given that its a FIFA ruling, and they aren't bound by English law at all. Whether or not they will find any duress is up to them. I don't know if there was any, I just know one can certainly make a case for it.
    On the issue of unconscionability in the US, by the way, I don't believe its as clear cut as you make it out to be, haven. A court can still find a contract unconscionable if there was a great disparity in bargaining position despite general fairness. A contract with a 7 year old kid won't necessarily be enforced because he sold his house for market value.
    Oh, and don't study too hard for the bar. Its not that difficult of an exam. Especially Texas. ;)

    *Bosman - that ruling is a difficult one to cite to because it still remains one of the most far reaching rulings ever by the EU courts, as far as I know. (Its been a year and a half since I've really looked at EU law.) Whether they will make rulings in a similar vein is unkown, especially against other private entities.
     
  8. Buddha

    Buddha New Member

    Jun 6, 2005
    Chicago
    Good luck and welcome to the club! (Buddha: University of Illinois College of Law, class of 2001)

    In case you haven't heard, the bar exam is the biggest bunch of BS you'll ever see. It's a complete joke. But study hard anyway! :)
     
  9. Achtung

    Achtung Member

    Jul 19, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    U of I! :) (Comp Engineering, 2003)
     
  10. Buddha

    Buddha New Member

    Jun 6, 2005
    Chicago
    I-L-L!
     
  11. bigtoga

    bigtoga Member

    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas, Texas
    Well, if FIFA was to make a decision this week, today would be the last day, eh?
     
  12. jayro75

    jayro75 Member

    Sep 8, 2004
    :confused:

    I didn't know they knew how to do that...... ;)
     
  13. bigtoga

    bigtoga Member

    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas, Texas
    Oh come now - they just made that stupid decision to give kids a yellow card if they touch the ball after the whistle, didnt they? That helps the game, right?

    Puuuuhhhhlleeaassseeee
     
  14. Achtung

    Achtung Member

    Jul 19, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I-N-I! :D
     
  15. Motterman

    Motterman Member

    Jul 8, 2002
    Orlando, FL
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Go Terps! :cool:
     
  16. Achtung

    Achtung Member

    Jul 19, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What's important is that you didn't say "Go Heels". ;)

    Thanks for beating Indiana. :D
     
  17. Vermont Red

    Vermont Red Member

    Jun 10, 2003
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Go Catamounts!
     
  18. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    you are all Gator-bait...
     
  19. hkeat

    hkeat New Member

    Sep 30, 2004
    Malaysia
    i've missed alot of news about this tug-of-war for mikel... so the problem will remain unresolved till FIFA gives their verdict?
     
  20. Achtung

    Achtung Member

    Jul 19, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah there really hasn't been much in the way of news recently. Everyone is just waiting for FIFA to rule based on whatever info they have.
     
  21. TxTechGooner

    TxTechGooner we're having fun here, no?

    Feb 24, 2003
    if they decide Obi Mikel can leave.. that is a crime.
    he is your player hands down.
    come on jack, knock this in damnit!!
     
  22. Hawki

    Hawki New Member

    May 4, 2005
    NorCal, USA
    Unfortunately, their silence is deafining.
     
  23. MANUTDGAL

    MANUTDGAL New Member

    Mar 15, 2005
    Framingham, Mass.
    GOOOOO GATORS!!!!!

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    THE SWAMP ONLY GATORS GET OUT ALIVE!!!!!
     
  24. StrikerCW

    StrikerCW Member

    Jul 10, 2001
    Perth, WA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Except the good old boys of Starkvegas. :)

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  25. MtP07

    MtP07 BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 3, 2005
    Sorry, but just gotta do it.

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    Go Tigers!
     

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