The Nimfasha Berchimas Thread

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by Maximum Optimal, Jun 4, 2023.

  1. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It’s going to be fun when the World Cup roster has a 16 year old Cavan Sullivan and a 17 year old Berchimas.

    But even more fun two years later in LA for the Olympics.
     
  2. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    Nimfasha would be 18 by then.
     
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  3. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well that I hadn’t realized.

    Given that he’ll be 18 and that he’s already likely to be playing first team minutes this year, I’d put his chances of being on the roster as higher than Cavan Sullivan. Though I don’t think his chances are very high.
     
  4. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    I'm at 25% for Cavan and 10% for Nimfasha.
     
  5. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think those two extra years make a big difference and that he’s already breaking through with the first team this year it seems.

    For both they’d need to be in a position to make January camp 2026. But for both I put the chances below 5 percent.
     
  6. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Still a huge hurdle for Cavan Sullivan that he literally can't play first team games for the next two years if he doesn't sign a pro contract with Philly...
     
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  7. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hurdle for making 2026 but not a huge deal in terms of his career development. And while I think he should sign with Philly you can’t make career decisions based on something that has a very small chance of happening.
     
  8. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well he could go the minor league route and sign with say Louisville but that doesn't increase his chances IMHO.
     
  9. Coolwhip

    Coolwhip Member

    Jun 27, 2010
    MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hope he does, there has to be some way a deal can be made.

    Back to Berchimas, bogert thinks he could debut in the first 2 games. Charlotte might be a must watch early
     
  10. Kombucha

    Kombucha Member+

    Jul 1, 2016
    Club:
    --other--
    Charlotte winger depth is very weak.

    They haven’t made any signing and lost Jozwiak, Meram and Gaines plus Cambridge is injured.

    Legit not sure they have any real options at this point to where Berchimas won’t at least have to be on the bench.
     
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  11. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Word out of Tom Bogert is that Berchimas will likely debut in the first two games. He's apparently not looked at all out of place practicing with the first team -- I believe the comment was simply that you couldn't tell who the 15 year old was out there.

    Dean Smith has a strong development rep from his days at Villa, so hopefully it's a good spot for him. Charlotte needs offense, and Berchimas can provide that.

    I'd still expect a decent amount of bouncing up and down -- it's just very rare for a 16 year old to get big minutes in any league. (He turns 16 in 3 days.) Alphonso Davies got 1,000 minutes; Tyler Adams got 45 and then 2,000 as a 17 year old.

    If he gets 1,000 minutes that would say something big, even on a team with roster holes like Charlotte.
     
  12. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If he gets 1000 minutes I may actually start to really speculate he has a shot at at the 2026 roster.
     
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  13. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    If he gets a thousand minutes, you really have to talk about the upside. Like I said, it's Adu, of course ... but in the modern era, it's Alphonso Davies and basically no one else... although Busio was close.
     
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  14. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From a local fan
     
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  15. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    It becomes more clear each passing day he is a big talent and that his results as a junior player were a reflection of that talent rather than him being an "early physical development" case.
     
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  16. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  17. Coolwhip

    Coolwhip Member

    Jun 27, 2010
    MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The difference between how old Berchimas looks bald vs with hair is crazy. In the u17 wc I think i was subconsciously thinking he was more physically developed that he actually is. He still looks his age
     
  18. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He’s roughly the same age that Lamine Yamal was at the beginning of this season.

    Not saying that he’s that level of player, but it’s definitely conceivable he could play real minutes this year.
     
  19. Kombucha

    Kombucha Member+

    Jul 1, 2016
    Club:
    --other--
    Charlotte's wing options are pretty poor outside Vargas.

    The started a 20 year old off Crown Legacy, Iuri Tavaras, at LW (Vargas at RW) and although he was responsible for the goal with a header off a corner (that was headed in off the line by Malanda) otherwise his performace was forgettable.

    Berchimas didn't do much either in the cameo. He subbed in for Vargas at RW and has a couple of opportunities with the game stretch late to either create one on one or keep possession and burn time and instead lost possession or hit a weak shot at the keeper.

    Physically didn't really look out of place, but clearly has room to bulk up and become more physical.

    Have to think he will get more chances because their are no other options and at least physically he is able to hold his own.
     
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  20. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Provided the announcer was right, it's bear-KEEM-mas. I was definitely going BIRCH-ee-mas, so that's good to know.
     
  21. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    then start him
     
  22. Kombucha

    Kombucha Member+

    Jul 1, 2016
    Club:
    --other--
    Got in a played the last 7 minutes plus 7 minutes of stoppage time. Feel like he had a fair amount of touches in the limited minutes, but didn’t do anything with them. Wasn’t paying 100% attention though
     
  23. Kombucha

    Kombucha Member+

    Jul 1, 2016
    Club:
    --other--
    Charlotte signed a DP Winger from Celtic two days ago.

    It will obviously take some time to get his paper work squared away and acclimated with the team, but will ultimately make minutes for Berchimas harder to get down the road.

    He just turned 16...feel like constantly playing in Next Pro this year and perhaps making an occasional appearance with the 1st Team is probably best for development anyway.

    He feels a year away from me based on what I have seen so far. After mainly playing with the Youth Teams last year, I think focusing on Next Pro is the right spot for him.
     
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  24. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    It's going to take him a little while to adjust but I expect to see him be an effective member of the first team in the second half. Of this season.
     
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  25. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    He's still so young. Getting any minutes is great. He's probably not all the way ready yet, but I'm not sure you'd expect a just turned 16 year to be ready.

    The thing that stands out a little to me though is the athletic profile. It's a little notable that he's a little on the shorter side for a winger and his speed is there but doesn't play as devastating as it does against kids. I really hope he's not done growing. A 5'7/5'8 winger with very good, not great, speed is a little different in the projection than 5'10 or 5'11 with great speed.
     

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