They have the issues, the momentum, and the war record on their side. There's only one thing the Democrats lack for a successful Presidential campaign: a war chest. And there's only one Democrat alive who's capable of raising the $100 million over the next four months to defeat Dubya. Ladies and Gentleman, the next Vice-President of the United States of America:
I think Hillary's ego is too big to take the VP slot. I wouldn't be surpirsed if Bush gets a new running mate for 2004--at the least Cheney will step down a year or so into Bush's second term. Can't pretend I have any clue who'll be named to replace him, however--I'd love to see JC Watts.
???? Look, it's very very very very very unlikely that Bush'll ditch Cheney now. But there's no way in f****n' hell he ditches him in the middle of his second term!!!! That's never happened. (Don't say Agnew, that was different.) Seriously dude, you're just out of touch with reality to suggest that. Also, isn't Watts scandal-tainted? I have a vague memory of him being the father of a couple of bastards. Please forgive and correct me if I'm wrong.
Whatever Gringo. She wants the whole enchilada and there's no way that she would stoop to the Vice-Presidency. If she did, and they won, Kerry would pass away from "mysterious ailments" and she'd become President. superdave - I can't believe I just agreed with Alex BTW - notice he said step down. Depends on how much heat Cheney takes from the public. He may want to slip into the background. But I would say we're at about 90% Cheney stays. But it would be Dick, not George's call.
Cheney has documented health issues, is not a viable candidate for President in 2008, and could easily be given another job within the Administration if he steps down. I don't think Bush will "ditch" him (at least not publicly), but I find it extremely hard to believe that Bush will go for more than 1 year of his second term (assuming he wins in November) with a VP who probably wouldn't even run for President in 2008. He did father an illegitimate child when he was 17, who his family then took responsibility for (the child was adopted and raised by Watts' uncle). His other 5 children were all born in wedlock. I don't think it's really anything close to an issue, given his age at the time, the fact that it only happened once, and the fact that his family took full responsibility for the child's well-being. I think Cheney steps down for health reasons no later than about March 2006 and (I hope) is replaced by JC Watts. Actually I hope it happens before the election (not Cheney having health problems, but him stepping down, possibly to become director of Homeland Security), since I think having Watts as a running mate gives Bush even more of an advantage in the election--aside from his race, he's a lot more likeable than Cheney, is a future Presidential possibility, is a lot younger and more telegenic, is a former star athlete, and so on. In addition, naming Watts as running mate before the election would force Kerry to think very, very hard about choosing a black or Hispanic running mate, and there aren't really any viable black or Hispanic candidates on the Democratic side right now (the names being batted around for the job of Kerry's running mate are all white--Edwards, Clark, Baych, Gephardt, Hillary, etc). JC Watts for VP!
Alex, I know you're like 19 years old, but really, have you learned no American history? What you're suggesting has NEVER HAPPENED!!! You don't just get rid of a VP in the middle of a term. Cheney goes if he dies, or comes mighty close. Period, end of discussion. It is a ludicrous fantasy to think the VP, who was ELECTED, is gonna be treated like he was the Secretary of State or whatever. I can't believe I'm worrying about this, because I'm obviously right and you're obviously wrong, but my compulsion to educate the young is making me reiterate...Cheney WILL NOT leave in the middle of a term, unless it's for health or scandal reasons. It's exactly as likely as him being in two places at one time, or the invention of a perpetual motion machine.
Re: Re: The next Vice President of the U.S. “I’m not going to have some reporters pawing through our papers. We are the president.” Hillary Clinton commenting on the release of subpoenaed documents.
Quick question for you, Dave, since you're so knowledgeable about American history--how many Presidents have been voted out of office during wartime?
It would be interesting watching JC suck up his visceral hatred for GWB to take the VP slot. Wishful thinking, but the last few things I had read about JC, I think, made me think he was about ready to become a Democrat.
But that OU basketball could score as many points against the Horns as OU football. I am kind of amazed at the fact that we don't have more Okie's making a run for President. It's not big city, its not south, its not Midwest. Just smack dab in the middle, with a bit of religion but not too much, a bit of country but not to much, and other than the most ********ed up football fans, nothing to really distract them from good politics. There was a young democrat representative there about 8-10 years ago who I thought would be the next big thing, but then the thuggish Republicans put some scoundrel in his place by making him look "soft" on something or other. Youngish, good looking white guy. Do you remember who that was, Mike S.?
With the way this administration has been run, what in the world makes you think they're going to obey the laws of thermodynamics?
That question's about as relevant as how many twinkies can an angel dancing on the head of a pin eat. We're not at war, remember? Mission accomplished. Unless, of course, you think the war against terror is a war. In which case, Bush I was voted out of office while he was fighting the war on drugs.
JC's not leaving private life and the large consulting fees he's earning any time soon. If he were, he'd be in the race to take over Nickle's seat in the Senate as he would win it hands down. However, it now looks like a seat the Dems'll pick up with Rep. Brad Carson (2-District) winning the race over former OKC Mayor Kirk 'Do you know how much money I'm worth' Humphries, who'll win the Rep. nomination over former Corporation Commissioner Bob Anthony. Oman- I don't know who you're referring to, but if you want three up an coming young Dems. from OK who are photogenic, articulate, and intelligent, there's Ken Korn (early-mid twenties)who's a state senator and was elected while still in undergrad at OU, Carson who I mentioned earlier who is early thirties and a former Rhodes Scholar and attorney (sound familiar?), and Dan Boren (Dave's son) who is late twenties and is running to take over Carson's seat in DC. These are three young guys who could play major roles in the Democratic Party within the next 10 years.
I think it was McCurdy, but I didn't realize he lost to Watts. McCurdy also thought a Branch Dividian theory might have been plausible on OKC. I guess he just looks better in the rear view mirror.
Chris Rock had a bit a while back about how a black man could never be Vice president. he said that a black man would shoot him, and then go to jail with a bunch of other black men who would treat him as a hero. here's a guliani story from a few weeks ago http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4065772/
By "war", I mean "sustained and consistent military action against a legitimate enemy". The "war on drugs" is a completely different animal, and you know it.
Do you have any links for this? I ran a search for "JC Watts George Bush" and the only things that turned up showed Watts supporting Dubya--accompanying him on his trip to Africa (just this past July), defending him against criticism from the NAACP, etc. Granted none of it (except for the Africa trip) was all that recent, but I didn't turn up any instances of Watts criticizing Bush at all.
Especially a VP who might need a Presidential Pardon before his term of office is out, if the Nigerian bribery investigation isn't quashed.
search google with /bush scumbag visceral hatred "dumb as dirt" "constrained by party pressure" watts/