That's fair, and I believe Carlo's idea was to try this out as he seems to rate them all. However, I do think it's not a sustainable solution considering the 'issue' we already have in midfield and which will get worse over the course of the season and the coming years. While I understand that there are a lot of games and everyone will get his share of minutes, I don't think you can put (or, in Cama's case, keep) one of Tchou and Camavinga on the bench as a squad player. Camavinga has, undeservedly taken that spot for now, but I'm curious to know if Tchou would accept such role. Neither do I believe Camavinga, who has significantly more reason to feel undervalued by the way (if Rodrygo feels that way, I'm making an assumption), will accept his current role for much longer as well. It's a good 'issue' to have for Carlo (Cama isn't talking in the media or showing signs of disappointment, he's a great team player), but I'm interested to see how it develops. I like both players, but I sadly think we will lose one of them in the relatively near future.
3 players with barely any defensive input isn't sustainable at this point. You need at least one to pressure the opponent and keep them on their toes, otherwise teams basically walk the ball into your half. Benzema used to pressure defenders when they moved the ball and Bale would run the flank. Ronaldo was not known as a good defender but that's not quite true: he was absolutely excellent in clearances at dead ball situations. His athleticism was super useful.
I agree with you, I don’t think either of them will be okay with sharing the starting role forever. Personally, I prefer Camavinga for his versatility.
Its sad too see are fans giving this guy crap, he is a super underrated player for the team and see no problem in him showing believe and wanting recognition.
People are weirdos. All summer they trash him and say he doesn't fit and hiw they want to sell him. The second he mentions City they trash him and say he's being disloyal. When he tries to show fire and fight for his position they criticize him for wanting more. The same people would criticize him if he mailed it in like Eden Hazard. Just absolutely miserable.
Seems everytime he runs his mouth and goes crying to the media he performs poorly..wish he could focus on his game instead..
Oh i agree also some of these fans have gotten their new shiny, new, mbappe toy and so rodrygo is thrown to side. They make excuses for someone like Mbappe who hasn't done anything for the club but disrespect Rodrygo who has been key part of title winning sides.... strange people.
Nobody disrespects Rodrygo. Everybody knows what he brings to the team and the club gave him a contract that runs 4 more years until 2028 to make sure he knows that too. It's Rodrygo himself that believes he's in the running as the best player in the world, keeps posting pictures he's been cropped out of etc. The club and the fans haven't given Rodrygo any weird energy. He's played over 2000 minutes every year for multiple seasons now. If that's not good enough for him, tough luck, there's 4 more years of it on the books.
Bottom line is you are right here and nobody can dispute it. The idea that we can win all that has been won without Mbappe, which is more than he was able to win with the club he was previously at and the club still had this "need" to sign him almost at any cost AND make him the highest paid player. It's disrespectful, there's no getting around it. As for the posts and quotes, well it's like the saying goes a close mouth doesn't get fed and the club remains silent on much of this stuff.
The club gave him a contract until he's 30 years old. If that's not long term commitment, nothing is. If he didn't feel comfortable with how he is being treated, maybe he shouldn't have signed the extention. He was also saying stuff like this before: “I would love Mbappé to come,” Rodrygo said. "I always want to play with the best players, and he is one of the best in the world. I would love to, but I can't talk too much about him." So spare us the bullshit
The people that consistently trash on some of our players are known quantity by now. Let's not give that too much attention. However, in my opinion, I raised a valid point earlier and am curious as to how all of this will develop over the next few months and seasons. We have a midfield and attack that is stacked with some of the most talented players in the world. If the club can keep them happy, that'll be incredible.
It's pretty ridiculous to consider "Rodrygo isn't the best player in the world or even close to it" - as trashing the player. Can Somebody show me where the club or the team disrespected Rodrygo? Or the fans? Was he boohed? Assaulted like other players were leaving the stadium? We're discussing absolutely nothing here.
I wasn't talking about you to be honest, nor am I disputing that Rodrygo isn't in that 'best in the world' conversation. I'm just trying to stay away from that nonsensical discussion and made an attempt to discuss the matter that is more important (to me at least); the matter of available, and extremely talented, personnel and how to keep them all engaged.
Yeah I love Rodrygo. For me he is not necessarily the problem as far as anything he does or doesn’t do. I just think the following are true 1. We need more balance in the midfield plus Mbappe and Vinny thrive in space, so 442 might be the best way to go 2. I think he is a wonderful supersub, but I don’t think he would accept that and I don’t blame him so more than trashing him or being negative towards him, I just feel eventually something is going to have to give
None of that or what @HZinho said is trashing Rodrygo. We have people who get mad and say he is basically useless and we should sell him but then act like he spat on their first born any time he says anything and the only time he actually said something he shouldn't have wa the City stuff. The guy is showing fight, he his last match for me he played well and we want him to grow into his role. These guys on the other hand want him to fail and get pushed out because he isn't their favorite, shiny enough, etc.
To be fair he's run his mouth with the press regarding recognition, position and playing time a few times now. Certainly more than anyone in the squad currently.
I love Rodrygo too but it just adds up. Hes has the best cost-benefit ratio with regards to selling due to his financial value and his position in the team.
It's always in the national team, we've had it with Higuain, Di Maria, James, Robinho (when Robben joined us), just the lot. This is far from something new or surprising.
He has what feels like an eternal contract, maybe he sort of regrets that? Also reminds me of Ronaldo saying he's unhappy when Messi got paid and he had to get a little bit more then he was happy again.
Well if we use those names as references, it could mean he won’t be around to finish his contract in all probability. Not saying I want that to happen.
Yeah, we're discussing a realistic possibility here and some interpret it as "no wonder he feels disrespected!you want him gone!" as if he reads this place.