The Next Santos Prodigy - Bem Vinda Rodrygo Silva de Goes

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  1. boeder

    boeder Member+

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    Feb 27, 2013
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    Kids need to STFU and tell us why he didn't travel with the team to Wembley
     
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  2. Raul-7

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    Aug 17, 2006
    What do you mean? He traveled alone to Wembley?
     
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  3. MerlinRM

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    May 5, 2014
    Georgia
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    Delayed thoughts:

    I'm really disappointed in Rodrygo and honestly think this maybe his last season at the club. He had a bland Copa America and while he showed glimpses, I don't see him "bursting" into the scene like Vini did anymore. This may be his final form.

    He just seems so content at playing second or 3rd fiddle and having a better player at the helm of a squad whether its Brazil or Real Madrid.
     
  4. Raul-7

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    Aug 17, 2006
    I respect him as a person; he seems very humble and good-hearted. But maybe that's the problem, you need an ego/drive to succeed and he doesn't have it.
     
  5. J-Mezzy

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    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
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    He would be an awesome super sub

    just doesn’t want to be that and I don’t blame him
     
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  6. Nathanial Essex

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    Mar 19, 2017
    I don't think he's content at all, just not that good despite numerous clutch moments.
     
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  7. Raul-7

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    Aug 17, 2006
    He's definitely talented, but he either lacks motivation or dedication. I don't see that hunger or drive in him that Vini, Jude or even Carvajal possess.

    He seems to suffer from S. American syndrome where he seems very content that he made it 5 years at RM, raked in a good amount of cash and now can go play at midtable club or PSG to rake in more cash.

    Maybe Xabi can change that if Rodrygo stays.
     
  8. saadomar

    saadomar Member+

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    Mar 21, 2013
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    I think he would absolutely light it up at another major team that can play him at LW. He is very good there, but unfortunately for him he always has Vini and now Mbappe ahead of him in that position. I think Madrid should sell him this summer while his value is still high. We have endrick, brahim and guler waiting to get in.
     
  9. Nathanial Essex

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    England
    Mar 19, 2017
    I don't think so. He's good, but will never be absolute world class in my opinion. I think being at Real Madrid makes him look better than he actually is.
     
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  10. hector_br

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    Feb 13, 2007
    That's pretty much it. Don't think Endrick will accept such a role either.
     
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  11. J-Mezzy

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    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
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    Well then he will have to go. He’s not sitting Mbappe
     
  12. Dr. MvN

    Dr. MvN Member+

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    United States
    Oct 22, 2018
    Estados Unidos
    It probably would've benefitted Endrick to go to another club where he would've been in better position to get consistent playing time - some starts, some subs; he's not ready to be a starting #9 at a competitive club - but you and I both know that the sport has moved in the direction of top Brazilian talents going directly from Brazil to a big European club, no intermediate steps to get seasoning first. In that sense, Endrick damn well should know he's not getting starting appearances in these first two seasons unless he's so unbelievably good that he forces his way into the lineup. Julian Álvarez appears to be running out of patience at City but even there he's entering his 3rd year and he's already 24, so you get it, it's time to get moving if you're him at that age, and quite obviously he's not replacing the starting #9 at his club so it's either force a move or never be a considered a key player.
     
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  13. MerlinRM

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    May 5, 2014
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    Endrick just turned 18 like 3 days ago. Hardly fair to make assumptions about what role he'd accept when he hasn't even joined the team yet. If anything, this is perfect timing. Mbappe turns 26 in December and on top of that Endrick will be the only real 9 on the team. Can totally see a Vini, Endrick, Mbappe trio if things work out in a few yrs.

    Rodrygo on the other hand has had years here and still hasn't shown much more than promising youngster that fails to make the leap like a Vini or Jude.

    EDIT: Nvm, just saw Endrick is actually still only 17 :eek:
     
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  14. saadomar

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    #1289 saadomar, Jul 17, 2024
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    Endrick and Arda are Real Madrid's projects. They will take more time to cook and simmer. Lamal benefited from a deep run with Spain, so who knows how well Arda would've done with better players and a deep run. So far Arda is the golden child.

    Rodrygo is a supersub. Sometimes you need that extra firepower off the bench. He has the clutch gene at least. I think it does harm Arda and Endrick's progression if Rodrygo stays though. Madrid also has another supersub in Brahim Diaz. With Mbappe and Vini Jr absolutely torching any defenses that play a high line, each and every team will play a low block. We will need skilled and creative players in tight spaces like Brahim to break down those low blocks.

    I think Rodrygo can still be a star. He just doesn't play his natural and preferred position regularly for Madrid because Madrid has better options than him. It can't be coincidence that Rodrygo hit his form last season as LW and Vini was out with injury.

    My opinion is that Rodrygo should be sold. I am sure there are some top clubs with loads of money that will pay good money for him. City and PSG would definitely both want him along with Liverpool. Put him up for sale and test the waters.
     
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  15. 4x4s

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    I think Rodrygo is a better player overall than Brahim.
     
  16. saadomar

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    Definitely has more tools. But the problem is we have too many players of his mold. The most significant thing about Rodrygo is his aerial ability. Now Mbappe and Bellingham can step in to add that as well.
     
  17. .halamadrid2.

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    Don't think he has more tools. He has more power in his shots, doesn't hog the ball like Brahim that's about it. Brahim is a better dribbler, better in tight spaces and has better creativity. Rodrygo has better movement off the ball.

    What aerial threat lol? Even Brahim has better success from aerial duels than Rodrygo.
     
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  18. saadomar

    saadomar Member+

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    Mar 21, 2013
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    Are we forgetting his header against Man City?
     
  19. .halamadrid2.

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    Vini has also scored a header and we can all agree he is terrible on aerial duels.

    Statistically Rodrygo is not very good on aerial duels. Last season he had a success rate of 19%. In contrast, Brahim had a success rate of 25%.
     
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  20. saadomar

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    Per how many attempts?
     
  21. .halamadrid2.

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    1 per game for Rodrygo and 0.7 per game for Diaz. Success rate are 0.2 per game for both

    Rodrygo with 26 attempts in total to Brahims 12
     
  22. Dr. MvN

    Dr. MvN Member+

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    Oct 22, 2018
    Estados Unidos
    Honest to God, I'm not quoting you to pick on you here...

    ...I just think it's funny how, if you aren't good at something but you do it successfully one time at the absolute most crucial moment, that's how you get remembered. And vice versa of course as well with some players and statistics.

    Rodrygo might not be a great aerial threat as borne out by statistics, but he won a header one time when it essentially decided whether won the Champions League that season or not. Sometimes that's all that matters.
     
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  23. Seoul Villan

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    Feb 16, 2011
    it’s the same logic people used for Messi since scored that one header in the CL final that proved he was the same as CR.

    For Rodrygo his strength is being able to get a shot off quick on those half volleys and loose balls when it gets scrappy in the box. Hard to measure statistically but seems to get those opportunities frequently.
     
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  24. Nir_O

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    Mar 16, 2019
  25. arcane

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    Aug 18, 2005
    Philippines
    Even if it was true, it still could mean nothing if the team switches to a 4-2-2 for balance.
     

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