The Next Santos Prodigy - Bem Vinda Rodrygo Silva de Goes

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  1. Nathanial Essex

    Nathanial Essex Member+

    Real Madrid
    England
    Mar 19, 2017
    It's going to be just that. Even Joselu is a better option currently.
     
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  2. hector_br

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    Feb 13, 2007
    Supersub type of player. If he takes the role, lucky us.
     
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  3. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    His passiveness is the most frustrating part. No fire in him when he isn't playing at his best. He has a purple patch every season and then a lot of non impactful games.
     
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  4. HZinho

    HZinho Member+

    Apr 2, 2013
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    I agree with this, but I'd define "supersub" a bit broad, to include him starting games too (in a rotation). I absolutely love him and rate very highly, but I think he's had as many chances as Vini, but just hasn't been able to carve out a starting spot for himself. He's simply too inconsistent. I'd be very happy to have him in a Isco type role (supersub, with quite some starts), but I'm not sure if he's OK with that. If so, then excellent!
     
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  5. hector_br

    hector_br Member+

    Feb 13, 2007
    Excellent post, my thoughts exactly.
     
  6. laundromat

    laundromat Member

    Jul 20, 2014
    Would not surprise me if it took him a couple more years to really get it. The talent is there. The infrastructure is there. He’s already a winner.

    The tragedy is that it when he does figure it out, it might not be with Madrid
     
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  7. MiamiNative0722

    MiamiNative0722 Member+

    May 25, 2013
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    Concerning stat: Vinicius has officially surpassed Rodrygo in goals this season despite having played 700 less minutes.

    Just 1 goal in Rodrygo's last 10 Liga games.
     
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  8. INST

    INST Member

    Real Madrid
    Aug 15, 2023
    Like Benzema you mean? Not to compare 1:1 because Benzema in his younger years was much more involved than Rodrygo is now (and admittedly had a much better supporting cast). But we were often rumored to replace him with Lewa/Falcao/Suarez and a good portion of the fanbase wanted him gone He stuck around and eventually he matured into the role from 2019 onwards with that golden peak season as a cherry on top.
     
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  9. Doni

    Doni Member+

    Dec 4, 2010
    London
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Rodrygo has looked lost ever since Vini came back.

    He picked up form just before Vini got injured and continued that blistering form for a decently long stretch, either side of that he’s been really poor, maybe even worse now than the start of the season when he was at least getting into dangerous positions despite not being able to score.

    Needs to wake up very quickly.
     
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  10. laundromat

    laundromat Member

    Jul 20, 2014
    to your point, I personally only really warmed up to Benzema post-Ronaldo.

    I hope it’s with Madrid but as of now I just get more out of watching Brahim Diaz on the field
     
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  11. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Rodrygo is vastly better than players other teams start every weekend. I'm conflicted.
     
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  12. petros93

    petros93 Member

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    Greece
    May 27, 2017
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    Man that's exactly how I feel. He's a good talent but obviously he gets lost within games and has periods were he's a no factor but at the same time the talent is there and no teams have such a talented young core like we do.
     
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  13. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    I watch other teams atop of their League table or close and i think Rodrygo is much better than this guy.
     
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  14. Anon.

    Anon. Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
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    With the same token, I look at players at other top clubs, often hyped up by the media, and don't think they're good enough to start for us, at all.
     
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  15. HZinho

    HZinho Member+

    Apr 2, 2013
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    It's because he is; he's a fantastic player.

    At the same time, there is no shame in (so far) failing to make the starting spot yours at a club as big as Real Madrid. I'll go even further and say that I wouldn't trade Rodrygo for a player like, for instance, Saka, who's rated very highly in England. I'd be more than happy keeping Rodrygo; in fact, I'd be unhappy if that 'trade' would happen. Just an example, nothing against Saka who's a phenomenal player for Arsenal.

    Again, if Rodrygo would be OK in the Isco type role, that would be fantastic for us. He has proven he has the level required, now he needs to find the required consistency (very difficult, some never do).
     
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  16. russian hattie

    russian hattie Member+

    Feb 5, 2006
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    I think sometimes we can make the mistake of comparing players to those we had in the past, when we should be comparing them to others that are around now.
     
  17. natenate101

    natenate101 Moderator
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    Dec 16, 2006
    California, US
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    Real Madrid
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    Having an actual striker would probably help him. Rodrygo needs more space than Vini does to be successful. He had good instincts from what I can see and goes get in scoring positions but isn’t always sharp enough around the goal. He is a very good player and still young, I hope he stays for a long time as I’m sure he’ll have even more memorable and impactful moments. And he has had several already.
     
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  18. arcane

    arcane Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
    Philippines
    Looks like Rodyrgo went back to what he was a few months back, which is underwhelming. Though some people overreacted and started gloating prematurely when he hit a fine vein of form. He still is firmly in the supersub-occassional starter level which is somewhat frustrating. But if wanted out with the Frenchman arriving, I wouldnt lose sleep over it.
     
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  19. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    He was always going to change when we took the ball away from him. When Vinicius got injured we dropped Rodrygo in his shoes and he instantly got more action and more of the ball. When Vinicius came back he didn't get half the looks he did before.

    Should Mbappe join the team, touches for Vinicius will drop as well. We don't get to play with two footballs.
     
  20. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
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    Real Madrid
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    Colombia

    Rodrygo has to become a super sub again at that point
     
  21. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
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    Rodrygo is expendable if we really sign Mbappe. His departure could generate a significant transfer fee, which might be where his value lies.

    PS: Casemiro should lobby his Man Utd management to buy Rodrygo for another EPL record.
     
  22. Nathanial Essex

    Nathanial Essex Member+

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    England
    Mar 19, 2017
    I don't think Rodrygo will be valued at much at all. Maybe one of the Italian clubs if they sell a big star, but can't see a Premier League club breaking the bank for him as he's never lit up the league, despite having his moment.
     
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  23. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
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    Real Madrid
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    Colombia
    Yes I am a homer and biased here

    but with Mbappe and Vini, I would prefer having a guy like Luis Diaz who runs and presses much more and also is a true winger and is great at breaking down defenses even though he is not as clinical as a goal scorer

    just feel he can play across the front line better
     
  24. HZinho

    HZinho Member+

    Apr 2, 2013
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    Real Madrid
    You're definitely (too) biased on this one. Luis Diaz's natural position is Vini and Rodrygo's natural position. In fact, I'm quite positive Rodrygo is a better RW (or part of a 2 forward system) than Luis Diaz is a RW (as Luis Diaz will rarely get to play as LW at RM). So I don't see any advantage in getting Luis Diaz, instead of just keeping Rodrygo, who's a better player tbh. Put Rodrygo at Liverpool in that LW spot and he'll light that league up. Sorry, not seeing this one brother, for various reasons too (but I don't think this one needs an in-depth analysis).
     
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  25. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia

    I just feel that when Rodrygo doesn’t score, he doesn’t add much to the team

    Diaz creates and defends more even when he is not scoring

    Diaz also played RW the whole time Salah was out in the Africa cup and Diaz has been the only starter available lately as they’ve been decimated by injuries and still somehow remained atop the table and won a domestic cup.

    lastly I don’t think Rodrygo could press in that system like Diaz does
     

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