The Netherlands - Oranje Leeuwinnen & Eredivisie

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  1. desinho

    desinho Member

    Liverpool FC
    Spain
    Aug 7, 2007
    Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    #1 desinho, Jan 11, 2022
    Last edited: Jan 11, 2022
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    New year, new opportunities and new main Netherlands thread :). November 2021 marked the 50th anniversary of women's football as part of the KNVB football association but it really only gained mainstream attention since qualifying for Euro 2009 (the next jump in popularity was achieved by the first ever World Cup qualification in 2015).
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    First success was the 2014 U19 title decided by a single Vivianne Miedema goal in the title match against Spain. Miedema named player of the tournament and was top scorer as well (funnily enough Dominique Janssen was creating havoc in her own defence back then already, scoring an own goal in the group stage match against Scotland). Three of the 2014 squad made the title winning Euro 2017 selection and five made the 2019 WC squad (a sixth, keeper Vreugdenhil was the fourth goalie in contention and probably should have been selected instead of Kops, imo. A huge letdown for Vreugdenhil who was the goalie for Valencia at the time. Lost the joy in football and left Valencia the following January and retired from football in August of 2020 at the age of 25).

    Anyhoo, with a Euro 2017 gold and 2019 silver medal the Leeuwinnen are gearing up for Euro 2022 led by new head coach Mark Parsson, who has had a rocky start so far to say the least.
    Here is the official fixture list for 2022; February Tournoi de France and other friendlies to follow:

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    Previous topics can be found here:
     
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  2. desinho

    desinho Member

    Liverpool FC
    Spain
    Aug 7, 2007
    Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    #2 desinho, Jan 11, 2022
    Last edited: Jan 11, 2022
    Coincidentally bumped into this video covering the history of the Leeuwinnen on Youtube this week (no English subtitles unfortunately but does have Dutch subtitles; download here if you will to translate):



    Ties is nicely with the history section on the KNVB website: https://www-onsoranje-nl.translate.goog/teams/207834/historie?_x_tr_sl=nl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=nl (https://www.onsoranje.nl/teams/207834/historie )

    Oh yeah, forgot to post this Black Friday pickup :whistling::D:ninja: (#nojinx):

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    Tournoi de France schedule has already been announced in the meanwhile I see: https://www.fff.fr/article/6592-tournoi-de-france-le-programme-des-matches.html

    Wednesday 16 February
    Brazil v Netherlands 1900h CET (2:00 p.m. EST)

    Saturday 20 February
    Finland v Netherlands 1800h CET (1:00 p.m. EST)

    Tuesday 22 February
    France v Netherlands 2110h CET (4:10 p.m. EST)
     
  3. desinho

    desinho Member

    Liverpool FC
    Spain
    Aug 7, 2007
    Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    #3 desinho, Jan 13, 2022
    Last edited: Jan 13, 2022
    2022 kicked off with a Jackie Groenen interview, published back on January 3rd. Read it here: https://nos-nl.translate.goog/artik...et-oranje?_x_tr_sl=nl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=nl (the video appears to be geo-restricted to the Netherlands I read)

    Key take away for me (cleaned up the terrible auto-translate a little :ninja:): "I think the most important thing about sport is that you enjoy it. If that decreases, I will start doing something else; I may not be the best professional topathlete in that respect. Of course winning prizes is super fun and don't get me wrong, because wherever I am winning is a must. But still, there are also other things in life."
    That is exactly how she comes across to me, probably her big sis has the killer instinct of the two.

    On the Groenen note, my next project: replicate her (official) debut shirt. have the numbers and the shirt but couldn't get all the letters anymore. The new/current ones (top) are fairly similar though but will probably try to have the original style made or make myself at some point:
    This was her debut kit and number but in a training camp practice match/friendly without names on the back (v Turkey iirc)
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  4. desinho

    desinho Member

    Liverpool FC
    Spain
    Aug 7, 2007
    Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Eredivisie recommencing tonight with three matches:
    (bye week for Feyenoord)

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    Livestreams:
    The current table:

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    Here are the three accompanying videos for the Jackie Groenen interview btw:
    part 1, part 2, part 3 (and the link to the original article)
     
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  5. desinho

    desinho Member

    Liverpool FC
    Spain
    Aug 7, 2007
    Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    #5 desinho, Jan 16, 2022
    Last edited: Jan 16, 2022
    Eredivisie round 15 results: (match highlights here)

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    No player transfers in the Eredivisie (there probably is no mid-season transfer window) but at least three coaching changes coming up next season. Firstly FC Twente are parting ways with the Tommy Stroot successor (NT head coach that Wiegman succeeded). They've become so accustomed to the Stroot way that this was not deemed a succesfull match in manner of working together. Results have been good though lately after a rocky start of the season.
    Next up: Ajax have (finally) decided to say goodbye to their head coach. Underperformed for two seasons with by far the best squads but this season with a more trimmed squad and more consistent lineup (forced by injuries in large) somewhat starting to come together.
    And thirdly, this week PEC Zwolle's head coach announced his intention to leave after being at the club in various roles for 7 years, 3 of which as head coach (still young like Stroot). I like the way they play, particularly this season, but injuries have put a damper on the season after a good start. By the end of today's matchday the've managed to get him to admit he is in talks with Twente :D.

    Interesting lineup by Twente: no (natural) central defenders on the pitch, let alone in the squad o_O. No van Es, Dijkstra, Ypema (wonder if they're quarantined) ... Only two players over the age of 23 in the starting lineup, midfield is 22/16/19 (Peddemors looking good today, haven't seen her play much; returning from ACL injury end of 2020. One of those that was in the 2019 UEFA U17 Final, maybe a more athletic Groenen type [similar build, slightly taller]. Quite skillful on the ball :cool:). Marc Parssons in attendance as well today ...

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  6. L'orange

    L'orange Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jul 20, 2017
    Has Peddemors been a forward in the past? The player I'm thinking of was tallish and speedy and impressive for the U17 team. But I remember her as being on the wing.... could be mistaken.
     
  7. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    The Netherlands transfer window dates are 04.01 to 31.01 as per FIFA.
     
  8. desinho

    desinho Member

    Liverpool FC
    Spain
    Aug 7, 2007
    Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Seem to remember her covering the right flank as well during the U17 euro's but not her normal position

    Yes, probably valid for all competitions but I can't remember any transfers happening in women's football the past few seasons ... Perhaps has to do with most players being on a one year contract only? Last summer window marked the first ever transfer fee paid in women's football for a national transfer (van Diemen from Ajax to Feyenoord; had a multi-year contract which is more prevalent only at Ajax).
     
  9. desinho

    desinho Member

    Liverpool FC
    Spain
    Aug 7, 2007
    Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    https://www.uefa.com/womensunder17/match/2027438--netherlands-vs-germany/
    Pretty sure you are remembering the correct player :thumbsup:.
    (current and soon to be former Twente headcoach was the U17 head coach back then to make it full circle :laugh:)
     
  10. desinho

    desinho Member

    Liverpool FC
    Spain
    Aug 7, 2007
    Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Round 16 of the 2021/22 Eredivisie season (this year they'll play each other three times; instead of a playoff system iirc). SC Heerenveen v Ajax match post-poned due to too many positive Covid tests at Ajax ...

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    Livestreams tonight
     
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  11. desinho

    desinho Member

    Liverpool FC
    Spain
    Aug 7, 2007
    Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    #11 desinho, Jan 21, 2022
    Last edited: Jan 21, 2022
    Unexpectedly they do turn out to have a livestream up for ADO The Hague v PEC Zwolle on their Youtube channel (that hasn't seen any action in months)



    Unfortunately they have brought out the potato to film it and forgot to turn on the rest of the stadium lights :laugh:o_O (of course the price for energy is sky high at the moment and no doubt they've only turned on just enough to play at night)
     
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  12. desinho

    desinho Member

    Liverpool FC
    Spain
    Aug 7, 2007
    Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    #12 desinho, Jan 28, 2022
    Last edited: Jan 28, 2022
    In the news this week: the Eredivisie will get two more teams next season to make it eleven teams (and they hope to eventually reach 12)

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    No league matches this weekend but a Cup round: Saestum is an interesting club here (from the Utrecht area), club with the most national titles before the 'professional' league was started (still are the leaders though but Twente closing in)

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    First one postponed already :alien:

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  13. desinho

    desinho Member

    Liverpool FC
    Spain
    Aug 7, 2007
    Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    #13 desinho, Jan 29, 2022
    Last edited: Jan 29, 2022
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    Saestum v ADO The Hague livestreamed (with a different potato this time). Saestum the undefeated nr.1 in the second division (no promotion to the Eredivisie).
    A bit of a storm today and I see it's affecting the game there as well (pretty nearby after all relatively speaking). ADO should have the advantage in the second half ...

     
  14. desinho

    desinho Member

    Liverpool FC
    Spain
    Aug 7, 2007
    Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    #14 desinho, Feb 4, 2022
    Last edited: Feb 4, 2022
    Round 17 of the Eredivisie

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    Fans allowed back in so not expecting livestreams from the first two matches. Twente has never had one so need not even be mentioned :rolleyes:.
    Preview here:
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    Reminder of the table:

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    And the draw for the next round of the Cup

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  15. desinho

    desinho Member

    Liverpool FC
    Spain
    Aug 7, 2007
    Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    #15 desinho, Feb 6, 2022
    Last edited: Feb 6, 2022
    PSV v Ajax cancelled due to heavy rainfall. Catchup game for Ajax against Heerenveen earlier in the week postponed as well for a second time but this time around it was Heerenveen with too many positive Covid tests in the squad :alien:.
    With the Euro's this year and international match windows scheduling is becoming a tight affair.
    Slightly touched on the Tournoi de France in the broadcast but not much Leeuwinnen news to report. No word on Damaris yet either, awfully quiet on that front :cautious: ...

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  16. desinho

    desinho Member

    Liverpool FC
    Spain
    Aug 7, 2007
    Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    And another round of Eredivisie, last one before the international break and Tournoi de France.
    Another match postponed involving Heerenveen due to positive Covid test results :alien:. This is starting to get ridiculous: first one Ajax was the cause, second one Heerenveen were the cause and now Twente is the cause of the postponement :rolleyes:. Wonder if any Twente internationals are affected :whistling: ...

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    Midweek Ajax played their catchup game against Heerenveen:

     
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  17. Interview with Parsons. Use google translate if interested
    https://www.ad.nl/nederlands-voetba...len-een-bepaalde-energie-laten-zien~a0519387/

    Mark Parsons wil inspireren met Leeuwinnen: ‘We willen een bepaalde energie laten zien’

    Voor de Oranjevrouwen begint de weg naar het EK deze week. In Frankrijk speelt de ploeg van Mark Parsons een oefentoernooi met wedstrijden tegen Brazilië, Finland en Frankrijk. ,,Dit zijn de eerste grote stappen naar het EK.”

    Tim Reedijk 14-02-22, 15:35
    Vanmiddag stappen de Oranjevrouwen, nog zonder de geblesseerde speelsters Daniëlle van de Donk en Shanice van de Sanden, in het vliegtuig naar Frankrijk. De ploeg nestelt een weekje in Le Havre en speelt drie wedstrijden. Woensdag in Caen tegen Brazilië (19.00 uur), zaterdag tegen Finland in Le Havre (18.00 uur) en dinsdag wacht Frankrijk, om 21.00 uur in Le Havre.




    ,,Dit zijn de eerste grote stappen naar het EK”, vertelde bondscoach Mark Parsons vanmorgen in Zeist op de KNVB Campus. ,,Sinds januari ben ik full time in Nederland en heb ik veel tijd met mijn staf doorgebracht. Tijdens dit toernooi willen we bouwen aan het elftal en de ontwikkelingen doormaken die ons in april helpen met de WK-kwalificatiewedstrijden en in de zomer met het EK.”

    Parsons neemt 27 speelsters mee naar Frankrijk, met Esmee Brugts (PSV) als debutant. Ook Loes Geurts (BK Häcken) en Lynn Wilms (VFL Wolfsburg) behoren voor het eerst sinds de Olympische Spelen weer tot de spelersgroep. ,,Geen enkele speelster gaat in alle drie wedstrijden negentig minuten maken”, verklapt Parsons alvast.


    Voor mij zijn de cultuur, de speelstijl en leiderschap binnen de groep drie belangrijke pilaren

    Mark Parsons
    ,,Natuurlijk willen we het team verder ontwikkelen, maar we moeten als staf later dit jaar ook keuzes maken over welke speelsters we selecteren. We willen dus ook andere voetbalsters zien spelen, tegen toptegenstanders. In twee van de drie wedstrijden ga je ons zien bouwen aan het elftal dat er moet staan in april en op het EK en in één duel gaan we wat meer experimenteren om speelsters in actie te zien.”

    Parsons kende rumoerige eerste maanden als opvolger van Sarina Wiegman. Ook op het voetbal is nog een en ander aan te merken. Daarom heeft hij zich enkele doelen gesteld voor de komende periode. ,,Voor mij zijn de cultuur, de speelstijl en leiderschap binnen de groep drie belangrijke pilaren. Die willen we helder krijgen en versterken in de periode naar het EK toe. Uiteindelijk willen we in Engeland een bepaalde energie laten zien die iets speciaals moet losmaken bij iedereen die naar ons kijkt. Natuurlijk willen we goed voetbal spelen en succesvol zijn, maar we willen ook inspireren. Zoals dit team al eerder gedaan heeft. Harten veroveren in Nederland, maar dit is juist ook één van de unieke landen die harten verovert in allerlei andere landen over de hele wereld.”
     
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  18. Ethan Frank

    Ethan Frank Member+

    Chelsea
    United States
    Jun 11, 2019
    Assuming Finland is the match used for experimentation, the schedule worked out well/conveniently for Parsons (i.e. the weakest opposition on paper as the second of the matches).
     
  19. L'orange

    L'orange Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jul 20, 2017
    It sounds like the French tournament could be something of a bust for The Netherlands. After reading the above--that Parsons want to use two matches in this tourney to gear up his likely starters for the Euro Championship (and the other for having a look at younger players), I read that Roord, Wilms and D. Janssen all tested positive for Covid in Germany. I don't think they have even traveled to France--and four new, young players have been called in. So sounds like that group will not be playing at all. Sux badly. I'm SO sick of Covid. The top assistant coach has also tested positive, I believe. Plus Van de Donk is out--still recovering from her serious hamstring injury. That's four starters and your top assistant. Good grief.
     
  20. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    It's a chance for the newbies.
     
  21. Lohmann

    Lohmann Member+

    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Roord and Wilms tested positive. Janssen not travel is a precautionary measure after many Wolfsburg players tested positive.
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  22. L'orange

    L'orange Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jul 20, 2017
    Yea, except most are very young and have played little or not at all on the national team, and so it's going to be a messy three games for the Dutch, I'm afraid.
     
  23. desinho

    desinho Member

    Liverpool FC
    Spain
    Aug 7, 2007
    Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  24. desinho

    desinho Member

    Liverpool FC
    Spain
    Aug 7, 2007
    Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    #25 desinho, Feb 15, 2022
    Last edited: Feb 15, 2022
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    The players are Lisa Doorn and Chastity Grant from Ajax. Kayleigh van Dooren (whom I've spoken about earlier in this topic) from Twente and Janou Levels from PSV. All are regulars in the U23 squad and two have made their senior debut in the game against Japan? (Or Levels maybe sooner already?).
    The KNVB reports only speaks of the [French] strict corona protocols preventing their travels (?) ...
    You're really 'only' missing Janssen, Roord en vd Donk. Grant is in the mold of vd Sanden and has been in good form of late ... Doorn iirc put in a mature shift against Japan and they already had van Diemen in the squad whom seemed destined for the NT at the 2019 Euro U17 already :cool: (as stand in possibilities for Janssen, or van Diemen as extra cover for Willms as well)
    Esmee Brugts in the squad for the first time as well but as highly as I have spoken about her before, this season she is acting like a right diva, also diving at the slightest contact :rolleyes:. I'll take Chimera Ripa over her at this moment ...

    Speaking of: I'm just now finding out that after only 1 season at Heerenveen she will be joining PSV next season on a three year contract :thumbsup: https://www.psv.nl/vrouwen/nieuws/artikel/ripa-aanwinst-voor-psv-vrouwen-.htm
     
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