The Multi-Eligible Player Recruitment Thread (2026 WC Cycle Edition)

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by Dave Marino-Nachison, Dec 3, 2022.

  1. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    my guess is it’s the latter. FIFA or the sub governing bodies aren’t the ones who look for this stuff (they only do a passport check for nationality and age if it’s a youth tournament, and beyond that, I don’t think anything else).

    In a case like this, the opposing team has to file an objection to the use of an ineligible player and then the tournament governing body looks into it.

    My suspicion is that a lot of teams are just not keeping track on the specific details of opposing youth players (if they played for another NT, did their switch get approved, do rules preclude them from playing in that tournament, etc).
     
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  2. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    For the record, I've given up trying to read logic into any of this.

    I don't think anyone here (or elsewhere in the public discourse) really disagrees about what the FIFA laws say.

    Where the ambiguity lies that is causing players to play for nations they seemingly aren't eligible for, I don't know, and I've just accepted it may not be as logical as you'd think it should be.
     
  3. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
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    Whatever is going on here, I guess I'm just choosing to pay attention to what actually happens and take from that what I can -- at least until there's a clearer explanation or whatever somewhere.

    I'm not 100% sure of this, but I think that if Hamdaoui plays for Morocco at the U17s it would be the first example of a guy playing for one country in qualifying for an official FIFA YNT competition, and then playing for another in the Finals of that competition in the same cycle, WHEN his first country is also in the Finals, that I know of under the current set of rules. (If there's been another, tell me!)

    And even then it's (maybe) funky because the matches Hamdaoui played in for Belgium were not the final round of qualifying; they were a prequalifying round.

    Does any of this matter? I have no idea.
     
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  4. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    #604 Dave Marino-Nachison, May 9, 2025
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    Croatia picked up an '06 GK at Bayern Munich who was cap-tied to Australia at U17 level and didn't play for them at U20 qualifying -- not that it matters much, since neither Croatia nor Australia made the FIFA U20 finals. He's also age-eligible for the upcoming UEFA U19s, but Croatia didn't qualify for that either. (They lost to Luxembourg along the way.)

    And by the way... I realize I do occasionally post things that have nothing to do either with the US programs or FIFA rules broadly. My general thing is basically that it's interesting to have some global context regarding the kind of guys who switch and when and so on. Obviously I think the main focus of this thread will and should remain US stuff; hopefully folks don't mind the occasional post about other things.
     
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  5. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    DeCorte:

    “I haven’t yet made up my mind but at the moment I’ve been playing with the Belgian U-19s. I haven’t made a decision yet.”

    Asked if he has heard from the USA for a call up, he replied, “Recently, no. But I’m open to hearing from either side. I spent my whole life in America. I’m American. As a child, I would come to Belgium on vacation with my family.”
    https://yanks-abroad.co/2025/04/21/devon-de-corte-on-his-anderlecht-adventure/
     
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  6. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Dante Sealy's on T&T's Gold Cup preliminary roster. Off the top of my head, he doesn't need to file a switch, though he has a bunch of USYNT appearances to his name.
     
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  7. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Good for T&T. Ship has sailed with the USA IMO.
     
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  8. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
     
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  9. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Arman Durmiši did in fact make Albania's UEFA U17 roster. I don't know what it says about The Rules, but it did happen! (To recap, my understanding here, and take that for what it's worth, is that he was provisionally cap-tied to Slovenia while playing up in the previous UEFA U17 cycle, and was permitted to switch to participate in the current one. This is probably not something that happens and/or is gonna happen a lot, but I found it interesting.)

    https://fshf.org/sq/shqiperia-shpal...0-lojtare-per-kampionatin-europian-u-17-2025/
     
  10. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Dante Sealy has reinvented himself and found a home in Montreal.
    He's always had some tools but never seemed to put it together enough to be a USMNT prospect.

    Good for him to take this T&T opportunity.
     
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  11. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    I don't think being on a provisional Gold Cup roster (necessarily) means anything more than they put him on there -- Canada was putting Jebbison on theirs for years before he switched. Of course, Sealy doesn't need to switch. But until he shows up there or says something straightforward about the change, I wouldn't assume "it's happened."

    With that said, this seems like a textbook case of when you'd expect a guy to jump. He's not in the USMNT pool ahead of 2026. T&T isn't the longest possible longshot out there -- looking at the rest of their current WCQ group, they should, on paper, probably advance to the next stage, and he'd presumably help. (I feel obligated to point out that they dropped points to Grenada at home, long live CONCACAF.)
     
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  12. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Also -- not gonna get into them in detail here in an attempt to occasionally stay semi-on-topic, but FIFA has approved switches for Yang Mingyang (Switzerland > China) and Diego Moreira (Portugal > Belgium). Neither case says much about FIFA rules or anything else we tend to discuss here that I could easily see, but they're both worth looking up for the sake of general interest!
     
  13. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Not to mention his father was a T&T international..........................

    Although Scott Sealy also worked for the USSF for some time as a youth national team scout.
    I don't know if he's still doing that. He did start a training club in Texas called the Sealy Soccer Factory. He has a USSF "A" Coaching license.

    There were rumblings years ago about Dante possibly switching allegiance. He hasn't represented the US in a long time now, and was a fringe U17 and U20 as it was.

    If he ends up having this opportunity, good for him.
    .
     
  14. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Saw some tweets talking about Panama recruiting a Kuranyi and absent-mindedly thought "Huh, guess Kevin has a brother or something." Then I looked into it a bit more (it's his son Karlo, for the U20s) and was reminded that our hearts, while stout and brave, still, like muffled drums, are beating funeral marches to the grave.
     
  15. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    FIFA recently confirmed the switch of Netherlands-born former Dutch youth (and cuppa coffee MNT) international Pablo Rosario, a '97, to the DR.
     
  16. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Another Dutch player moves to CONCACAF -- this time, a '94 named Jean-Paul Boëtius, whose last meaningful cap for the Netherlands was apparently at the UEFA U21 level, who will now represent Suriname, and whose surname recalls a philosopher known for his thoughts on the rise and fall of men -- fitting for an athlete, to be sure.
     
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  17. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wolff brothers... no mention of the youngest

     
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  18. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    I highly doubt Owen will play for them. Ever. He will get at least a few USMNT caps and be in the pool over the next 2-3 years, regardless of how the rest of his career plays out.
     
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  19. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    I can see, if he doesn't improve more, him playing for them at like 28 or something especially if Tyler does (and I suspect he will).

    But yeah, Owen is much too good to play for them now unless he prefers them to the US.
     
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  20. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Suriname also got an '02 named Yannick Leliendal at Volendam who evidently played unofficially for Belgian YNTs and then was cap-tied by the Netherlands at U17 level. He was already on their Gold Cup roster, which was released before FIFA's "decision date," maybe raising a technical question, maybe not, about the timing of switches relative to competitions. With that said, I'm letting it go. Only so far down the rabbit hole I'm willing to go, at least for today!
     
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