The Multi-Eligible Player Recruitment Thread (2026 WC Cycle Edition)

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by Dave Marino-Nachison, Dec 3, 2022.

  1. TxEx

    TxEx Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur, Crystal Palace, FC Dallas
    Aug 19, 2016
    DFW
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    I don't want him to go obviously, but does anyone else find it hilarious that Mexico is importing young Mexican-Americans to play for their club teams because their own Mexican youth aren't good enough to fill these coming youth mandated slots on their gameday rosters.

    Like seriously what the hell happened to the vaunted Mexican youth pipeline that they've got to import MLS youth.
     
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  2. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think you’re seeing the problems in their youth development in the results of their national team.
     
  3. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Was my first thought as well.

    But also, Chivas is basically looking to buy every Mexican American. So it doesn't even need to be that.
     
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  4. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Barjas
     
  5. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    He's a good player but they paid us the equivalent of $6M for a guy not even getting time for us, so why not?
     
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  6. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I just want to see if the rumors of Barajas playing for the USYNT still come to fruition...

    Also it will be interesting to see what other Mexican-American prospects these LigaMX clubs and specifically Chivas come for. We're already hearing about Emi Ochoa. Obed Vargas now that he's switching? What about Brian Gutierrez? I guess we'll find out...
     
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  7. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who RSL paid very little for to acquire in the first place.
     
  8. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Dare I say Luna too?

    They'll probably try to sign all of them. Medina, Duenas, Ordaz, Carrera, Ruben Ramos are probably also on the radar.
     
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  9. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It makes some sense... The big LigaMX clubs like Chivas have a lot of money and there aren't that many top level Mexican players to spend it on, and relatively unproven Mexican American kids from MLS are not all that expensive in the grand scheme of things...
     
  10. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  11. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "Mexico is setting up tryout camps in 10 US cities for U-13's to U-15's with heritage to try out for their YNT's."


     
  12. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    US Soccer needs to stay on top of this, don't lose Luca Koleosho to Marsch and the Canadians
     
  13. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  14. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  15. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  16. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well hopefully the US not being competitive at Copa America doesn't have any negative consequences...
     
  17. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    When it comes to dual-nationals I'd be more worried about the fact that we just fired a USMNT manager who was "all in" on recruiting and providing opportunities to them. The next coach might not be. I mean, if its Gareth Southgate................we know he won't be.

    Canada was already recruiting dual-nationals. They were already trying to get a player like Luca Koleosho. This changes nothing.
     
  18. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Recruiting young dual nationals is pretty damn important for the USMNT (Jedi, Dest, Musah, Pepi, Tillman, Balogun, etc.) so if some manager isn't "all in" or interested that should pretty much rule them out (if they're not already ruled out for other reasons like having one of the worst xGs at the Euros in the case of Southgate) from the job. But being "all in" on recruiting isn't a Gregg thing, people thought the same about Klinsmann. Really every manager since the late 2000s has been "all in" on it (Bradley, Klinsmann, Sarachan, Gregg, Callaghan, Gregg) except for maybe the few months of Arena 2.0... even the interims, lots of guys made their debut under Sarachan and the Balogun drama happened under Callaghan.
     
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  19. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
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  20. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Sure. I'm not arguing against that. Dual-national recruiting is a team effort at the USSF with all of the coaching staffs, scouts, administrators, etc. Berhalter or any USMNT coach is just at the business end of the recruitment.

    The recruitment doesn't matter if Berhalter (or any USMNT coach) isn't willing to provide the final opportunity to Dest or Musah or Balogun or Antonee or whomever.

    The next coach may not be as supportive or open to it as Gregg.
     
  21. OleGunnar20

    OleGunnar20 Member+

    Dec 7, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC

    i've often wondered if it wouldn't be helpful for the USMNT to dedicate a role or maybe a team of people to do nothing but scouring for, scouting, reaching out to, maintaining relations/communications with and basically hardcore recruiting dual/tri nationals and then colaborating with all of the age group coaches in the final effort to recruit/bring in to camps and teams.

    It seems like for a few hundred thousand dollars a year (for say 2 or 3 people, probably ex players with some cache and good scouting knowledge) you could really see huge upside/benefit.
     
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  22. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Some of us have been saying this for years....
     
  23. OleGunnar20

    OleGunnar20 Member+

    Dec 7, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    you know who would be perfect for something like this? someone like Jermaine Jones, someone who's lived the experience. Maybe an ex-usmnt player who was a dual nat who chose us along with a more professional type scout/coach like Thomas Rongen? Wasn't he superb at the whole dual nat recruitment? I mean how much would it costs to hire those two guys (or two like them I'm open to suggestions) and just say "your only job is to find, establish/maintain relations with and eventually recruit to the various US national teams in collaboration with those team's coaches the best US dual nats on the planet."
     
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  24. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
  25. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    And by the way, Shevchenko got into their first match, so if he wasn't provisionally cap-tied already, I guess he is now.
     

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