The Most Hated Club in the Prem

Not true! I'm West Ham till I die.

 

here's some evidence I found on the internet

the moon landings were faked
http://www.angelfire.com/space/fakemoonlanding/moon.htm

9/11 was caused by Mossad.
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/wtc_summary.htm

McDonald’s serves a range of high-quality foods that can fit into a balanced diet
http://www.mcdonalds.com/usa/eat/nutrition_info.html

the world is controlled by shape-shifting lizard people
http://www.1111webdesign.com/PurpleCrow/Text-DavidIckeReptilians.html

absolutely f*** all, except some moron has spent some time making a stupid badge.

Go back over 20 years ago, and yes there were a few skinheads about, but skinheads were kind of fashionable in the early 80s. Reading do not have a firm. There is a group of lads, perhaps 15-20 or so in number who have a reputation for being a bit hot-headed, but that's it. I'm sure a few of them have mentalities picked up from editorials of the Daily Star, but it's a fair way from that and having swastika tattoos and declaring Adolf Hitler your lord and master.

The actual membership of neo-nazi groups is thought to be tiny, and as such they are prone to self publicity and love to claim things are being done in their name to make them sound more powerful. Combat 18 claimed responsibilty for a couple of bombs planted in gay pubs a few years back, even though it was nothing to do with them.

Linking football violence with unemployed disenfrachised neo-nazis here is the kind of lazy knee-jerk thinking that got disproven 20 years ago. As much as such groups love to claim influence, in truth they have almost none. People who fight here do so purely because they enjoy the buzz they get from it.

But apart from anything else, what have neo-nazis got to do with loyalists and hating catholics? Much points to Hitler himself being catholic (if not devout) and Nazism itself grew to a force in the most staunchly catholic areas of Germany. If if somebody had half a mind (it's all you need) to join combat 18, that wouldn't make them anti-catholic.

If catholics are so hated here, then why don't catholics here face persecution here? Why don't the Irish here for that matter?

Even when morons sing the worst "football" song going "No Surrender", what do you think the sentiment behind it is?

is it...

a) we hate the Irish* and want to persecute catholics.

b) we don't really appreciate being bombed, and don't want the bombers to win and feel their actions were therefore justified as a means to an end?


* people who sing that tend to hate everyone. It's just their nature to be miserable mean-spirited bastards - the kind of fans who at the world cup stood apart from all the fans who were there to have a good time as somehow they felt it beneath them.

 

So, to sum up, you once saw a run-of-the-mill bit of casual kick off and, surprise surprise, not all the participants take The Guardian. Welcome to 1980's Britain. Or, to put it another way, welcome to the entirely ordinary experience of every English football fan old enough to have been going on at around that time. I still don't get your link to secterianism. Unless you think "Ingurland" fans singing "No surrender" is evidence of some deepseated obsession with the Irish Question. Most of the dolts singing it couldn't find Belfast on a map of Belfast, let alone lead discourse about the Troubles.

Fine, just don't pretend to be Irish. You're a Yank.

Oh - and thanks for OKTerrific for his latest entry into the annals of Plastic Paddy dementia. He wants me to die because of the post I last made in this thread.

Neg reps are so funny. I collect them. They're like little badges of fun.

 

The "famed Kosher Nostra"? What, have you seen Bugsy twice?

 

chelsea... arsenal.. man u was 2nd for me now 3rd, horse face left, and beckham left a while back too.. but all of those teams are a glory hunter's paradise

 

Nah, never really minded Man Utd, especially as they've kept Arsenal off the top on a fair few occasions, and they hate each other. My enemy's enemy is my friend and all that. And they gave us so much money for Carrick...

Felt the same way about Chelsea until the Arsenal saga, and the latest Lennon alleged tapping up. Now they top the list with Arsenal a close second. Newcastle third for no particular reason.

 

LISTEN YOU ALL KNOW MAN UTD ARE THE BEST CLUB IN ENGLAND,so why bitch bout it,take it as it is LOSERS

 

You're mad.

The best club is clearly not Man U.

It's Leeds. They own Man U.

 

ummmm r leeds in the drop zone in the champ lg? go to sleep and dream some more

 

O child, you must be educated.

Leeds are still the League Championship holders over United. You must recognize that players like Gordon Strachan, Lee Chapman, David Batty, and Gary McAllister will always be more widely reverred than your precious United bunch. They were true champions on England. Can United say that? I think not little Drew.

Not to mention the historic 5-1 whooping given to them at Elland Road on February 19th, 1972.

 

living in the past boy

 

The past that will haunt you and United eternally.

You could win 100 championships but the Reds will always be owned by Leeds and you can damn well bet that United fans pray that they never get drawn against Leeds in the FA or Carling Cups because they would probably not even show up.

 

I don't hate Chelsea cause they have a gabillion rubles to buy every player on the planet.

I hate Chelse cause they do so little with those gabillion rubles. Sure they won the Prem the past two years but have done feck all in Europe and on top of that have played a brand of football that would make Blackburn proud.

I guess the age old adage that you can't buy class is true with Chelski. They don't have tact, class or any ability to play the game in a semi-attractive manner despite having one of the greatest collections of talents ever assembled on a club.

Oh a Mourinho is a complete and utter twat.

Oh and it is going to be fun to watch the Leeds like implosion of Chelsea once Putin decides to arrest Abromaovich for whatever reason and freeze all is assets.

 

[quoteFA or Carling Cups because they would probably not even show up.[/quote]

if leeds get there i'll show my ass in my town hall square,you have no idea bout football have you little boy

 

Nobody wants to see your pimpled, white ass in Town Hall Square Drew. Spare us all. You declared United the best club in England and that's simply not true, because Leeds is.

 

yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn thats why leeds are 2nd bottom in the champ lg eh?,dont live in the past live for the furture,man utd will be there leeds wont. full stop

 

That's because Glazer paid Leeds to.

 

The Leeds-Manchester United rivalry rests on the cornerstone of a 5-1 Leeds drubbing of Man U at Elland Road on February 19, 1972. United fans have never been the same and live in fear of a possible FA or Carling Cup match-up.

see there you go again bout the past 1972,34 years ago,ohh and btw have you seen elland road latley,it looks like somewhere my dog wouldn't shit

 

Let the past humble you young Drew. It shows that you haven't always been the top dog and you won't be. Leeds will. So sulk back into your flat to wank off to Man U TV and hope that they never ever mention Leeds again, because if they do you will get nightmares of Elland Road.

 

This 'drew' obviously understands very little of Leeds.

 

Apparently, reaching the semis is "doing feck all". Jesus wept.

 

PSV reached the semis. So did Monaco.

 

2 years in a row?

 

Oh Drew, you silly bastard