The MLS Stadium Thread

I just read the entire updated PUD and it calls out 11 Eastern Redbuds (Cercis canadensis).


The entire updated (August 19, 2016) PUD can be found here.

 

You would almost appear intelligent if you referenced a paint choice being "BENJAMIN MOORE* PAINT - COLOR RACCOON FUR - DARK GRAY"...

Are you talking about the enclosed stair/escalator area?

 

We used to hear about SSS with future planned expansion. Occasionally we know, no expansion is possible due to a small site.

What do we know about these 3?

I hear a lot of LAFC fans assume fiture expansion but I've never seen it in writing or sourced?

 

I've been to StubHub, Avaya, Providence Park and Dick's Sporting Goods Park. Of the 4, strictly from an aesthetics standpoint, Avaya was my favorite stadium. Providence Park was a close second. Two very different stadiums though. Avaya was panned by a lot of people around here for their small size and open end. The rake is super steep and there isn't a bad seat in the house. If the Quakes could actually pack that place night in and night out it would easily be one of the best environments in the league.

I guess what I'm saying is that size doesn't matter. And if DC gets the details right, it can definitely still be a great place to watch a game. I quite frankly can't wait for all 3 of these stadiums to open. I'll be checking all of them out.

 

I believe they have sold out every game since opening Avaya. From what I can tell they have sold out every game this year. I also think they are legitimate sell outs. There are lots of people that don't sit in their seats (they are at the bar in the open end) from what I know and that may make it look not sold out.

 

It sure as sh*t wasn't sold out when I was up there last October. 60% full at best. Perhaps a lot of people just didn't use their tickets that night. Was a very sterile environment. Aside from the 12 or so "ultras" on the second deck, it felt as though people were watching surgery.

 

I agree with you on Dick's. Felt like the smallest stadium, even though Avaya is technically smaller, you enter at ground level and the stadium rises up, and surrounds you, so if feels bigger. And you're right....Dick's in the middle of nowhere. JasonMa says there was a plan to develop the area around it, then the economy collapsed and those plans all died a quick death. Even with a good FO, it would be hard to pack that place every week because of the location.

Providence Park is pretty awesome. We were following the GPS, came around the corner and there it was. It fits in perfectly with the surroundings. Don't remember the street names and too lazy to look it up on Google maps. Its cool that you can look into the stadium from the street. The configuration is different because it used to be a baseball stadium, but it definitely works. Press boxes are in the corner and serve as a barrier between the TA and the sideline seats. Not that it matters, as everyone is pretty loud there. Concourses are mostly enclosed, which is different than Dick's or StubHub. Its an old stadium and they definitely preserved that look and feel when they remodeled. Its hard to describe. It is completely different than Avaya, which is very new and modern. I'd love to see them put in grass. I can also definitely see how the can expand seating (which I've read they are considering). Even though the Mulnomah Sports Club limited how much seating could be put in on that end, I think it adds extra aesthetic. The stadium is a part of the surrounding buildings, which I personally think is cool.

 

There was, and it did.

Though it really isn't as in the middle of nowhere as people make it out. And now there's a light rail stop from downtown to within a couple of miles so the idea of shuttles is being kicked around.

 

I actually spent one afternoon watching (part of) the Portland v NYRB (with Thierry Henry) game just like that. I didn't have a ticket - and couldn't get one even outside the gate from a scalper - so I was peering through a fence watching the small part of the field I could see. I gave it up at half time because my daughter (whom I was visiting) wasn't into it quite that much. Still...

 

Strictly from a 'miles from downtown' standpoint, it isn't that far outside the city. From a "I wonder if I might get attacked by a mountain lion standpoint" the surrounding area is pretty desolate. Especially considering the rapid development that is happening in and around Denver.

 

You do have to worry about that when your stadium borders a National Wildlife Refuge.

 

Historical revisionist! It was a poor fit for baseball and wasn't designed for such! **RAWR. Gnashing of teeth! Spittle!**



Anyway, baseball wasn't even in the plans when built in 1926, that's why the seats starting from about 115 and higher all face forward and NOT to a home plate. It's also an unfinished horseshoe stadium. Baseball was barely a tenant for half those years between 1926 and the 2011 renovation.

Those boxes in the corner are suites, not the press. The press sit up in the rafters above the West stands. Built when they increased the roofing in the late 1970s I think.

 

the thread will now have to be changed-

Four new cities, four new teams, and six new stadia

orlando, DC, st paul, LA, atlanta- and whichever city gets the MLS # 24 in 2018 will have to have a stadium built- 6 new stadiums in 2 years

 

Poor assumption on my part.

 

How about a fresh thread Lol

 

Orlando is going up fast. We must have new stadium fatigue because in the past by the time a stadium project would have steel going up there would already be a 50 page thread dedicated to it. (and 25 pages would be arguing about the roof's acoustics)

 

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I made it to Avaya couple weeks ago and are hitting Montreal and NYFC in September, at which point I will have made to every current MLS Stadium. My quick assessments.
-Portland with grass would be the Fenway of Soccer, add a few more seats= perfect
-CBUS- I like this little erector set stadium. It is our new history and what started it all.
-NYRB have the most Euro Looking stadium and half way decent transit access. Wish the area around the stadium was being built up.
-Houston- very downtown with 2 light rail lines stopping at front door- wish attendance was better
-Avaya was a nice surprise- watching planes land is kind of weird, parking a mess right now with the business park being build up around it
-SLC- great mountain view, parking a bit awkward and transit walk to light rail a little far than i expected. Wish this stadium had been right in downtown SLC
-Phil- cool water front location, area around pretty scary at night.
-KC- a little modern for me, but when you fill it every day, who can argue. The blue hell and support pub are awesome.
-TOR- was there before the new addition. Was a little plain, but crowds are up and the roofing helps. As long as they can keep the CFL from chewing up the field, all will be good.
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Those were my favorites. The worst=
=NE, miles from anywhere, too large NFL stadium, turf, no place to eat, little to no transit
=DC, location and transit ok, but the stadium smelled and falling apart- glad the new place on its way
=VAN- dome & turf, nothing can be worse
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SEA & ORL get a bye- turf sucks and large stadiums, but they are pulling large crowds
ORL goes grass and SSS so that cures one problem, only for us to now get ATL (see VAN0
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COL, DAL, CHI- too far out in suburbs, but with the youth/soccer plexes at COL & DAL, they also get a bye.
I consider my own LAG a suburb with a soccer plex. Not much around, limited transit, overpriced etc.
I think LAFC if done right out of the gate (and they appear to be so far), is going to take a chunk out of LAG attendance with transit access, closer to the center of the city, world class university and museum areas nearby, downtown is spreading down the Figueroa street corridor and the design of the stadium is a step above HDC

 

Repped for this:

Well done, sir. I am envious.