The MLS Stadium Thread

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by fairfax4dc, May 20, 2016.

  1. sportie1

    sportie1 Member+

    Sep 4, 2008


    now that is a stupid comment- must have been made by a far left socialist-communist
     
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  2. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    On the Caps, isn't this where we were a bit ago?

    BC Place is not an option going forward. It's SSS or the team moves.

    I mean, has something happened to imperil possible progress on a SSS?

    If the SSS deal gets done, I am sure BC could serve as a bridge and new owners would be interested?

    Or am I totally off base?
     
  3. FoxBoro 143

    FoxBoro 143 Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And you're assuming that the Forbes valuations are accurate, despite having limited access to financial information to make an assessment.
     
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  4. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That is true and they admit that but it is interesting how close they tend to get to actual traded valuations.
     
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  5. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What's happened is that they've been unable to find a buyer for the team in the last 14 months, and every serious investor who's cracked the books have walked away due to the team not being sustainable at BC Place to get from 2026 to 2031 (or whenever the new stadium opens).

    Now how much of that is accurate and how much is a negotiating ploy is open to debate. But those people saying this is "just" a negotiating ploy, well, I don't think 40-ish investors all walk away if they just need to adjust things slightly. I would assume the changes need to be significant. Also I don't remember MLS or a team putting out statements like they have over the last few days for "just" a negotiating ploy.

    Do I think they're rolling out a worst-case scenario in these statements? Yeah. But I also think things are in really bad shape for Vancouver, not seen for a MLS team since the pre-SSS days? I'm thinking like SJ to Houston or Dallas before they finally got (then) PHP over the line.
     
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  6. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran_Lebowitz

    There is a politics forum here where discussion of Trump’s intelligence and/or stupidity would be more appropriate.
     
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  7. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This saga in Vancouver..............



    and then:

     
  8. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wonder why they just don't build the temporary stadium like they did when they joined the league? Of course it would need the approval of the new stadium to make sense but it should do the trick as it worked for Miami and their stadium was far from temporary.
     
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  9. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There’s your answer…because it would be temporary.

    Unless I’m missing something, the answer is 100% obvious.
     
  10. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Temporary until their primary stadium is ready I assume he means. Not sure where they'd put it or why they'd have two. I mean you could build 3 temporary stands while you build a permanent fourth but that doesn't strike me as logical. Better to try and get an improved short-term contract with BC.
     
  11. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  12. eagercolin

    eagercolin Member+

    Metro
    United States
    Aug 25, 2017
    Buffalo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was in Miami last weekend and it's not as if I got a VIP tour or anything, but it's hard to believe that the new stadium will be ready in two months.
     
  13. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know what they want.. Approval and funding to build a new stadium. They don't want to be at BC Place because they don't get any money from the non-Whitecaps events at BC Place.
     
  14. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    They want the city to fund the new stadium too?
     
  15. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    This is my reminder that it's 2026.
     
  16. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    This $1.5m offer + the very little they already make still puts the Whitecaps around 20% below the MLS average for game day revenues. They’re top 7 in attendance. This is not tenable.
     
  17. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Until they can build the permanent one, play on a temporary stadium. They played at Empire field when they first started because they were installing a roof at BC Palace. The venue was constructed by Nussli Group in three months, cost $14.4 million and opened on June 15, 2010. The venue featured 20,500 roofed bucket seats—with the remaining 7,000 being benches—12 luxury suites, a press room, flood lighting and a FieldTurf artificial turf. It's less than a cost of some players and only took three months to build.
     
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  18. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  19. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Whitecaps CEO will address the media today from Marbella, Spain:

     
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  20. owian

    owian Member+

    Liverpool FC, San Diego FC
    May 17, 2002
    San Diego
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    God it makes my skin crawl when sports teams worth 100's of millions of dollars bitch about public institutions not offering them a sweetheart enough deal for them to make as much money as they want. I don't know the specifics of the Vancouver deal but just the clubs tone would make me want to say "F*** You" build it yourself. Even if I was a season ticket holder.
     
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  21. blacktide

    blacktide Member

    Feb 25, 1999
    #8021 blacktide, Feb 5, 2026
    Last edited: Feb 5, 2026
    From what I can see (however admittedly limited from here in CA), it seems they are cutting it close. Your look, plus what I have found online, make it look like they have more than two months work left. To finish and get an occupancy permit in two months feels ambitious.

    Anyone know when they plan to lay the grass? I looked up Columbus, and they put grass in on April 22 for a July 3 first match.
     
  22. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What do you think they are asking for?

    They don't seem to be looking for public subsidies, just a share of revenue.
     
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  23. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The grass must be close. The grow lights arrived in December.
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  24. carnifex2005

    carnifex2005 Member+

    Jul 1, 2008
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps
    Be out of town for a few days and all hell breaks loose. I'm guessing this is all about the BC Place lease conditions but that being said, I'm rather shocked at the amount of people who don't want to touch buying the Whitecaps.
     
  25. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well we don't know what the asking price is and they are losing $10 million a year.
     

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